Q400 V BAE 146
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BAE146 is an outdated heap of junk that pumps noxious gas into every cabin at varible amounts. This continues to happen all over the world and nobody is really doing anything about it. I guess the court cases will apear at a later date.
The Q400 reliability is quite good now. Most of the standard launch customer/ initial delivery quirks have been ironed out and it saves companies alot of money.
The 146 is better when longer sectors are required or there is a need for larger holds but that is about all. Oh of course, if nobody in the company can land its not to bad either.
The Q400 reliability is quite good now. Most of the standard launch customer/ initial delivery quirks have been ironed out and it saves companies alot of money.
The 146 is better when longer sectors are required or there is a need for larger holds but that is about all. Oh of course, if nobody in the company can land its not to bad either.
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I see the morons are coming out to play... 
If anybody had any hard evidence with regard to the 146 and fumes, it would have been grounded years ago and all the lawsuits would be over. The fact is that nobody who has investigated it (including the Ozmate government) can find enough evidence to take any legal action. Nobody is currently taking any legal action, not even the AOPIS clowns.
More to the point, if you were to take action against BAe with respect to the 146, you would also have to go after Boeing for the 757, and so on.
Even more to the point, after 5 years and over 4000 hours on the 146, I have never had a fumes incident. I don't know anybody who has had one either, and that was in a company with 17 of them. If you look after the AC system, they are fine. If you don't, ANY AIRCRAFT can have a fumes problem, including the Q400.
If anybody had any hard evidence with regard to the 146 and fumes, it would have been grounded years ago and all the lawsuits would be over. The fact is that nobody who has investigated it (including the Ozmate government) can find enough evidence to take any legal action. Nobody is currently taking any legal action, not even the AOPIS clowns.
More to the point, if you were to take action against BAe with respect to the 146, you would also have to go after Boeing for the 757, and so on.
Even more to the point, after 5 years and over 4000 hours on the 146, I have never had a fumes incident. I don't know anybody who has had one either, and that was in a company with 17 of them. If you look after the AC system, they are fine. If you don't, ANY AIRCRAFT can have a fumes problem, including the Q400.
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Sorry but what has fumes got to do with the take-off performance of an aircraft. Nothing I think..... its like the fact that there have been 737 rudder issues - is the 737 a bad aircraft bloody hell no.
Best knock this issue on the head....if u want to talk about fumes start another thread. All I'm interested in is which gets off the ground better and whether the big Dash can operate the sector I referred to about 3 posts back.
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Best knock this issue on the head....if u want to talk about fumes start another thread. All I'm interested in is which gets off the ground better and whether the big Dash can operate the sector I referred to about 3 posts back.
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Yes sir. Whatever you say sir.
Why not do the obvious thing and ask Bombardier for some performance information, it would only cost you one email and you would get the answer a lot quicker...
Why not do the obvious thing and ask Bombardier for some performance information, it would only cost you one email and you would get the answer a lot quicker...
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MOR,
Been in contact with the Bombardier's sales and marketing people.....
Not been successful in my endeavour as my umpteen different emails to them will show.
Been in contact with the Bombardier's sales and marketing people.....
Not been successful in my endeavour as my umpteen different emails to them will show.
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Don't talk to sales and marketing... call their performance department direct. I did that once when we first got the Q400... sadly I can't find the number or name of the guy I spoke to. He was very helpful though...
