GA STINKS
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Thats the problem with GA to many people ready to exploit and to many ready to be exploited.
Would you stick with your great paying 40k a year twin job if an offer came from the airlines? No wonder operators pay nothing, they know that is there no loyalty from pilots looking for a better offer.
Oh dear...
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Dog mate.....according to all involved in the aviation buisness......from the CEO down to the fueler/ramper.....its ALWAYS THE PILOTS FAULT!!!!.....buggered if you do,buggered if you dont....good point tho....PB
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Dogimed... pilots are only part of the problem. If those operators you speak of paid better salaries then they may receive that loyalty. However, most GA companies are struggling to make ends meet so the large salaries are simply not going to happen.
Unfortunately it's a vicious cycle.
Unfortunately it's a vicious cycle.
Grandpa Aerotart
TQ if your average GA operator paid it's pilots 65-70K a year they would still dissappear out the door as soon as a jet operator called...only difference would be the pilots could more easily afford the 737/A320 type rating
Don't believe me?
15 yrs ago I was a Talair pilot flying Otter/Bandits/402s/Islanders etc and we were on about 4-5K/mth net + accomadation, fed at work, provided with transport to and from work, full interline staff travel, leave fares for entire family once a year to point of recruitment (for one or two that was the UK, Canada etc), 6 weeks annual leave etc.
That's a 65k+ package when 65K was still a lot of money.
And every single one of us was beavering away on a Senior Com subjects and applying for airlines.
The only real difference was we were having a bloody good time and a great lifestyle in the meantime...but it didn't change the overall situation for 95% of the pilots...only the top 4 or 5 guys had been there for decades...everyone else probably averaged 3-5 yrs.
Don't believe me?
15 yrs ago I was a Talair pilot flying Otter/Bandits/402s/Islanders etc and we were on about 4-5K/mth net + accomadation, fed at work, provided with transport to and from work, full interline staff travel, leave fares for entire family once a year to point of recruitment (for one or two that was the UK, Canada etc), 6 weeks annual leave etc.
That's a 65k+ package when 65K was still a lot of money.
And every single one of us was beavering away on a Senior Com subjects and applying for airlines.
The only real difference was we were having a bloody good time and a great lifestyle in the meantime...but it didn't change the overall situation for 95% of the pilots...only the top 4 or 5 guys had been there for decades...everyone else probably averaged 3-5 yrs.
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Dogimed,
I agree with your comments. Why would an operator pay a pilot 50-60k when he can pay someone peanuts.
I get annoyed when I hear people willing to sell there grand-mother for a job.
Just makes it hard on other pilots to get a decent wage when pilots prostitute
there services.
I agree with your comments. Why would an operator pay a pilot 50-60k when he can pay someone peanuts.
I get annoyed when I hear people willing to sell there grand-mother for a job.
Just makes it hard on other pilots to get a decent wage when pilots prostitute
there services.
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GA sucks
Lots of thoughts here:
I got my start in commercial flying because I was an engineer. I noticed that helicopters tend to fly into the bush then do something foolish and need rescuing.
I was paid the proverbial 'minute noodles' as a new pilot, but when the beast died in the bush I (as an engineer) charged like GANGBUSTERS!
So if you have any supplementary skills, work them for all they are worth.
Now I work as an LAME for an NT airline and see the 'minute noodles' pilots come through here, and I will say this: If you stick to it you will end up with turbines under your right palm.
Better yet: do not do it! If you are already a dentist or some other well paying professional, ply your trade and grow rich.
Then, buy an ultralight or glider or warbird. I am into all of these.
Screw the shonky employer (Hi Bob).
Show him a view of the world, vertically, of the jungle, going straight down, at full throttle, through Wet Season thunderstorms, and say the magic words: 'You have control'
As if.
thekite
I got my start in commercial flying because I was an engineer. I noticed that helicopters tend to fly into the bush then do something foolish and need rescuing.
I was paid the proverbial 'minute noodles' as a new pilot, but when the beast died in the bush I (as an engineer) charged like GANGBUSTERS!
So if you have any supplementary skills, work them for all they are worth.
Now I work as an LAME for an NT airline and see the 'minute noodles' pilots come through here, and I will say this: If you stick to it you will end up with turbines under your right palm.
Better yet: do not do it! If you are already a dentist or some other well paying professional, ply your trade and grow rich.
Then, buy an ultralight or glider or warbird. I am into all of these.
Screw the shonky employer (Hi Bob).
Show him a view of the world, vertically, of the jungle, going straight down, at full throttle, through Wet Season thunderstorms, and say the magic words: 'You have control'
As if.
thekite
