BP closing down another bowser.
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BP closing down another bowser.
To all the interested parties that require AVGAS to keep their reserves intact while traveling through the north eastern goldfields area, bring a jerry can.
BP have decided to close the YLEO bowser down and have decided to service a non existant JET A1 market (well non existant other than one certiain RPT operator
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They have just made it harder to remain competative and legal if you own a piston powered craft and service any of the remote regions in the north eastern goldfields.
If your coming from the north or east, you now need to plan to Kalgoorlie for fuel. none available at Laverton, Leinster or as of the 20 of next month, Leonora. closest fuel will be Kal or meekatharra.
Good onya BP.Not a million dollars here so shut it down. it carried itself and cost very little to maintain, but wasn't a major earner, so regardless of who it effects and the services that rely on it, shut it down.
Good of you to notify people as well.............Oh, hang on. you haven't yet.
BP, they care..................... but only if they can make a few million from ya.
BP have decided to close the YLEO bowser down and have decided to service a non existant JET A1 market (well non existant other than one certiain RPT operator
).They have just made it harder to remain competative and legal if you own a piston powered craft and service any of the remote regions in the north eastern goldfields.
If your coming from the north or east, you now need to plan to Kalgoorlie for fuel. none available at Laverton, Leinster or as of the 20 of next month, Leonora. closest fuel will be Kal or meekatharra.
Good onya BP.Not a million dollars here so shut it down. it carried itself and cost very little to maintain, but wasn't a major earner, so regardless of who it effects and the services that rely on it, shut it down.
Good of you to notify people as well.............Oh, hang on. you haven't yet.
BP, they care..................... but only if they can make a few million from ya.
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You mean that card operated thingy??
As for putting in the Jet-A1, had heard that would be happening... but no-one I spoke to had any idea they'd be tossing the bowser out as well...
Given as you say that there is none avl at Leinster or Laverton either, you'd think they'd keep it there as a 'public service' in the event of an emergency/unscheduled stop...
Just out of curiosity, what do the RFDS use? I know there's a loader in the shed up at yleo... do they ever stop in for fuel? Or do they have their own 'stash' somewhere??
As for putting in the Jet-A1, had heard that would be happening... but no-one I spoke to had any idea they'd be tossing the bowser out as well...
Given as you say that there is none avl at Leinster or Laverton either, you'd think they'd keep it there as a 'public service' in the event of an emergency/unscheduled stop...
Just out of curiosity, what do the RFDS use? I know there's a loader in the shed up at yleo... do they ever stop in for fuel? Or do they have their own 'stash' somewhere??
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It is a card bowser, and the transpoprt cost is probably the largest cost associated with the bowser.
If the RFDS require fuel, they go to either Lienster, Laverton or Kalgoorlie. Generally they have enough on board to do the job though, as do most other Jet A1 powered aircraft.
BP wouldn't know the meaning of public service, after the discussion I had with the people responsible for this diservice to the community.
If the RFDS require fuel, they go to either Lienster, Laverton or Kalgoorlie. Generally they have enough on board to do the job though, as do most other Jet A1 powered aircraft.
BP wouldn't know the meaning of public service, after the discussion I had with the people responsible for this diservice to the community.
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..after the discussion I had with the people responsible for this disservice to the community
It seems that the 'bottom line' is just that these days.
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I rang them to confirm that they were in fact going to close the AVGAS site down and to see if anything could be done to retain it.
They were quite unhelpful,and really couldn't care less. the bowser wasn't losing money as I understand it, but wasn't making enough. Also they wanted to change it to a JETA1 bowser. that market doesn't exist here with the exception of the RPT operater that comes in here, and certainly wouldn't warrant the change on literage.
How was that pinky? careful enough?
They were quite unhelpful,and really couldn't care less. the bowser wasn't losing money as I understand it, but wasn't making enough. Also they wanted to change it to a JETA1 bowser. that market doesn't exist here with the exception of the RPT operater that comes in here, and certainly wouldn't warrant the change on literage.
How was that pinky? careful enough?
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That should make Kalgoorlie-Wiluna-Kalgoorlie interesting when there's a bit of 'weather' around.
Couldn't you keep a supply of drums in that shed of yours Wiz?
Couldn't you keep a supply of drums in that shed of yours Wiz?
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What no carnet bowser fuel 
No worries i'll just divert by say 100 nm or so I'm sure the pax won't mind.
It'll be interesting to see if BP are going to stock at least AVGAS drums at LEO. From memory I recall seeing JET A1 drums always sitting inside the fuel enclosure.
Then again what's the point at say $380 for 1 drum ( just a guess ), that'll be $1.90 per litre. That's gotta hurt.
Maybe some one can get the current going rate that the YMOG shire is flogging drums for, the price will no doubt be around the same figure as that.
Just out of interest what is say a drum of JET A1 cost these days?
No worries i'll just divert by say 100 nm or so I'm sure the pax won't mind.
It'll be interesting to see if BP are going to stock at least AVGAS drums at LEO. From memory I recall seeing JET A1 drums always sitting inside the fuel enclosure.
Then again what's the point at say $380 for 1 drum ( just a guess ), that'll be $1.90 per litre. That's gotta hurt.
Maybe some one can get the current going rate that the YMOG shire is flogging drums for, the price will no doubt be around the same figure as that.
Just out of interest what is say a drum of JET A1 cost these days?
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Wiz,
Why don't you take over the operation of the bowser? Buy it off BP, truck in the fuel and run it as a sideline business. Write off the transport costs on tax, claim depreciation on the pump itself, sell fuel to yourself at a loss and claim the loss on tax, dodge up some invoices for overhauls that you never paid for, sounds like a good opening for an astute businessman........... and you will be the toast of the town for providing infrastructure. They may make a huge statue of you out of old avgas barrels and erect it in the main street and all gather under it on ANZAC day and play two-up.
Why don't you take over the operation of the bowser? Buy it off BP, truck in the fuel and run it as a sideline business. Write off the transport costs on tax, claim depreciation on the pump itself, sell fuel to yourself at a loss and claim the loss on tax, dodge up some invoices for overhauls that you never paid for, sounds like a good opening for an astute businessman........... and you will be the toast of the town for providing infrastructure. They may make a huge statue of you out of old avgas barrels and erect it in the main street and all gather under it on ANZAC day and play two-up.
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Correct me if I'm wrong... but the types that the 'certain operator' will be running into YLEO... didn't think you could fuel them on a bowser that small.... you'd need to really stretch the hose or park close by... 
Unless of course they mean they're putting in a 'new' bigger, bowser? And I suppose it's another 'self-serve' arrangement...? Hope they add a stepladder for the crews then....
PS - I reckon a Wiz of Auz bowser is a great idea... just think, you'd have the fuel monopoly in town.... people would have to bribe you to keep the price down....... just kidding... if enough people want it, you've got a nice little earner there... as you say, it wasn't losing money.... sooo......
Ah these little towns... always so interesting... remember rocking up in Leo the first time, seeing one servo across the road from another in this dead quiet main drag, and thinking 'What the?'.... gotta love those competition laws!!!
Unless of course they mean they're putting in a 'new' bigger, bowser? And I suppose it's another 'self-serve' arrangement...? Hope they add a stepladder for the crews then....
PS - I reckon a Wiz of Auz bowser is a great idea... just think, you'd have the fuel monopoly in town.... people would have to bribe you to keep the price down....
... just kidding... if enough people want it, you've got a nice little earner there... as you say, it wasn't losing money.... sooo......Ah these little towns... always so interesting... remember rocking up in Leo the first time, seeing one servo across the road from another in this dead quiet main drag, and thinking 'What the?'.... gotta love those competition laws!!!
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A statue of Wiz sounds like a great idea V2... It might even win some sort of environmental award because of the benefit to birds. Pidgeons are always looking for new statues!
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Thanks for that Wiz
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Hey, Who can afford fuel in drums at $454 +freight. doubles the already expensive fuel price.
there are regulations against storing bulk fuel in hangers.
Its not just me it effects, there are quite a few perth and Jandakot operators effected by it, as well as most people heading to Perth from the east.
Flow on effect is the rest of the community that used to earn from itinerent aircraft, rate payers who now have to further subsidise the airport due to the loss of landing fee's, the local pastorolists who got their fuel supply for mustering from here, the guys that used to work for the pastoralists and so on.
Hey V2, mate you wanna be my accountant? I would love to take it all on and operate it, but alas, I'm just a busted assed mustering pilot living from one cheque to the next.
I do like the drum statue idea though.
there are regulations against storing bulk fuel in hangers.
Its not just me it effects, there are quite a few perth and Jandakot operators effected by it, as well as most people heading to Perth from the east.
Flow on effect is the rest of the community that used to earn from itinerent aircraft, rate payers who now have to further subsidise the airport due to the loss of landing fee's, the local pastorolists who got their fuel supply for mustering from here, the guys that used to work for the pastoralists and so on.
Hey V2, mate you wanna be my accountant? I would love to take it all on and operate it, but alas, I'm just a busted assed mustering pilot living from one cheque to the next.
I do like the drum statue idea though.
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That was my idea 
Buy the bowser and run it. Just depends on the costs involved and whether avgas could be bought, trucked and sold at a reasonable price by a small independent operator.
Buy the bowser and run it. Just depends on the costs involved and whether avgas could be bought, trucked and sold at a reasonable price by a small independent operator.
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Currently looking into it.
although, there are pollies involved now. could get better or worse real soon.
although, there are pollies involved now. could get better or worse real soon.
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Get your local member of parliament involved. They can usually say things like "Well, if AirBP doesn't want to have any community involvement we may have to make our government aircraft buy fuel from someone else" . Suddenly a bowser that is only returning 5% on investment starts to look pretty good if taking it away will cost them a heap of business.
Does anyone know how much it would cost to buy something like a bowser and it's associated tank from someone like AirBP? Got any quotes Wiz? I've often thought of setting up a little business servicing remote fields.
Does anyone know how much it would cost to buy something like a bowser and it's associated tank from someone like AirBP? Got any quotes Wiz? I've often thought of setting up a little business servicing remote fields.