BP closing down another bowser.
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Hey Wiz, just sighted your handsome mug on the ABC news. Great to see this issue getting some coverage. Excellent footage of the beast scooting along the edge of the lake. Was that taken at Raeside?
Is one of the pollies involved Mr Bowler? He is a mover and shaker and has done many good things for this region.
Is one of the pollies involved Mr Bowler? He is a mover and shaker and has done many good things for this region.
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Made the GWN news two days running now and ABC radio twice this morning.
Won't make much difference to BP, but at least people are hearing about it now and not being surprised when the bowser turns up with a black sticker shortly.
Footage was at work out at glenorn, part of the raeside system.
got that Grills fellow poking about it at the moment, going to have a chat with Mr. Bowler tomorrow.
Won't make much difference to BP, but at least people are hearing about it now and not being surprised when the bowser turns up with a black sticker shortly.
Footage was at work out at glenorn, part of the raeside system.
got that Grills fellow poking about it at the moment, going to have a chat with Mr. Bowler tomorrow.
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they intend to use it for jetA1. other wise I would be looking at it as well. maybe when it proves a bad decision they might sell it. then I'll look into it as I want that statue errected.
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Then again what's the point at say $380 for 1 drum ( just a guess ), that'll be $1.90 per litre. That's gotta hurt.
Maybe some one can get the current going rate that the YMOG shire is flogging drums for, the price will no doubt be around the same figure as that.
Just out of interest what is say a drum of JET A1 cost these days?
Maybe some one can get the current going rate that the YMOG shire is flogging drums for, the price will no doubt be around the same figure as that.
Just out of interest what is say a drum of JET A1 cost these days?
as for JetA1, I can tell you $380 is not high enough....
(as a guess, I mean...)
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Victor Two not what I was hinting at.
AVGAS has an aromatic in it that makes it unsuitable for sniffing
On the other hand if the bowser was on a sacred site...........
AVGAS has an aromatic in it that makes it unsuitable for sniffing
On the other hand if the bowser was on a sacred site...........
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they all getting the government subsadised OPAL fuel for the communities now.
Hate to have a legitimate use for avgas......... like to put it in aircraft and run a business on it...... wonder if I could get a government subsidy for that?
Hate to have a legitimate use for avgas......... like to put it in aircraft and run a business on it...... wonder if I could get a government subsidy for that?
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It's outside the J curve people.
It's outside the J curve, so it's not important is it?? Got to get rid of all those pesky avgas burners anyway. If they are allowed to continue they will keep competing, providing essential services to sparsely populated areas. Then the city slickers will not be able to sell all those kero burners, that they know we should be using. And customs and the military will have to watch the coastline for smugglers and skulduggery. They might even have to leave the capital cities, and live "up North"l.
No. Cannot have that.
People of the outback should be made to wait till next Wednesday to fly, and pay high prices to fly in a kero burner, after driving a long way to get to the nearest airstrip that has a service..
Next thing people in the bush will complain about having to use 1930,s style HF radio to communicate with.
No. The J curve is the only area that matters.
This is a third world country, where the underarm bowlers live.
No. Cannot have that.
People of the outback should be made to wait till next Wednesday to fly, and pay high prices to fly in a kero burner, after driving a long way to get to the nearest airstrip that has a service..
Next thing people in the bush will complain about having to use 1930,s style HF radio to communicate with.
No. The J curve is the only area that matters.
This is a third world country, where the underarm bowlers live.
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they all getting the government subsadised OPAL fuel for the communities now.
Another $10 million or so down the gurgler (initial outlay)
And in the next few months see what you will be able to get for a litre of NON Opal fuel in these communities.
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Just to give everyone an idea as to how stupid this is, I know some people fairly close to the main 'push' to keep the bowser. They have informed me that BP pumped about 80,000 litres of Avgas at YLEO last year. The JET A1 bowser was shut down at YLEO about 18 months ago because it pumped, wait for it, 600 litres in the previous 12 months.
The main push is to replace the AVGAS bowser with a JET A1 bowser. The push has been through the council by a Western Australia operator for JET A1 to be supplied at YLEO, and there has even been speculation that Money has changed hands under the table. Now this is only speculation, and I can neither prove, or disprove that this is true. I for one, hope it is not the case, as it means that some fairly underhanded tactics have been used to stop Piston operators from being competition in the Northern Goldfields. I hope no one would stoop this low, and I hope it is purely a bad decision on AirBP's part.
The main push is to replace the AVGAS bowser with a JET A1 bowser. The push has been through the council by a Western Australia operator for JET A1 to be supplied at YLEO, and there has even been speculation that Money has changed hands under the table. Now this is only speculation, and I can neither prove, or disprove that this is true. I for one, hope it is not the case, as it means that some fairly underhanded tactics have been used to stop Piston operators from being competition in the Northern Goldfields. I hope no one would stoop this low, and I hope it is purely a bad decision on AirBP's part.
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Jerry..! I really hope that's not true...! I happen to know a few people who work for the company I suspect you are thinking of... I would be very disappointed if this were the case... is this the opinion of only one or two, or does this 'theory' represent the opinion of many locals?? I can tell you, they would not be very happy either - everyone starts somewhere and as you say, GA cannot just be forgotten and pushed aside in these rural places...
PAF, so BP are definitely getting rid of the bowser? (i.e. buying it is not an option??) Any way you could give them a $ value on the amount they'd get from all you locals using the old setup if it were to remain...? Maybe if you could convince them it's worth their while they might reconsider... sadly a demonstration of what usually goes on in small town vs big company...
PAF, so BP are definitely getting rid of the bowser? (i.e. buying it is not an option??) Any way you could give them a $ value on the amount they'd get from all you locals using the old setup if it were to remain...? Maybe if you could convince them it's worth their while they might reconsider... sadly a demonstration of what usually goes on in small town vs big company...
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its not just the locals that use the bowser. any one from JT or PH using a piston and wishig to keep their IFR reserves intact need to use this place if they are going north or east (and back).
There are quiet a few passer bys that use it as well.
I don't know if $$$ would have changed hands under the table but I'm pretty sure there would be some promises of large volume of use from certain people.
It is true that the JETA1 truck was removed due to lack of use. (It had a flat battery last time they tried to start it and it used more fuel during the odd start up and run than it did selling fuel).
Can't see why they would want JETA1 here when it doesn't move, and there is ample in Lienster and Laverton, yet no AVGAS in the north eastern goldfields at all.
I would be happy to purchase the whole unit if there was a realistic figure on it, but I will bet a dollar against a dog biscuit that they will spend more removing it in the estimated 18 mnths it will remain as a JETA1 bowser, than sell it to any one that might be interested in selling fuel thats not theirs.
The whole show stinks.
There are quiet a few passer bys that use it as well.
I don't know if $$$ would have changed hands under the table but I'm pretty sure there would be some promises of large volume of use from certain people.
It is true that the JETA1 truck was removed due to lack of use. (It had a flat battery last time they tried to start it and it used more fuel during the odd start up and run than it did selling fuel).
Can't see why they would want JETA1 here when it doesn't move, and there is ample in Lienster and Laverton, yet no AVGAS in the north eastern goldfields at all.
I would be happy to purchase the whole unit if there was a realistic figure on it, but I will bet a dollar against a dog biscuit that they will spend more removing it in the estimated 18 mnths it will remain as a JETA1 bowser, than sell it to any one that might be interested in selling fuel thats not theirs.
The whole show stinks.
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Sky, and TQ, I too hope that this is not the case. As I stated before, I don't know what is true, or just speculation, but I know a lot of the facts from a very reliable source, and things aren't real peachy. As Wiz stated, this decision is going to effect every piston operator is Perth, as well as anyone who flies to the Northern Goldfields. This is not to mention Private Pilots, and Farmers who operate aircraft in that area. It is a poor decision being made by many people, and it appears they don't all work for AirBP. What is this industry coming to?