Fresh New CPL's Working in Canada
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Hey! Isn’t life wonderfully ironic!
Has anyone been reading the Canadian pprune page?
“overseas I've heard there are more opportunities abroad for a new commercial pilot such as myself (250hrs)”
At least there are jobs going in NT…Would the Canadian quoted above be better off in Australia?
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...=1#post2360775
Has anyone been reading the Canadian pprune page?
“overseas I've heard there are more opportunities abroad for a new commercial pilot such as myself (250hrs)”
At least there are jobs going in NT…Would the Canadian quoted above be better off in Australia?
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...=1#post2360775
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Zakpee, post company names? why should I? You know yourself how much time and effort it takes to get your head around a foreign aviation scene when you're not even in country. If that sounds like hard work to some fresh CPL holder then staying home is probably their best option.
A few quick points on this topic, specifically North America.
1: The grass isnt greener just because its overseas. But as a 2-300 hour CPL, you might notice for example that multi IFR instructor jobs are very hard to come by. And very few instructors in Australia log 100 flight in a month and have someone else brief their students. Yip, things are done differently in some countries.
2: You DONT need a green card to fly in the US as an instructor, a meatbomber, or in some cases as a bizjet or charter/freight pilot. Anyone who says otherwise doesnt know their law very well. If you cant be bothered doing the research you'll have to pay a lawyer or give up.
2: You DONT need sponsorship to work in Canada. If you have a degree you can sponsor yourself for permanent residence. They're desperate for qualified immigrants right now, they're running ADVERTISEMENTS for Fs sake.
3: If you have a degree you could be holding a Canadian passport within 3 years, especially if you can be bothered learning a bit of french or have skills other than flying.
4: If you're anticipating Canadian citizenship but want to fly in the US then check out the NAFTA (north american free trade agreement). Again, no green card required.
5: If (as a foreigner) you want to work in Canada or the US, you're a lot better off with an Aviation Degree. It won't make you a better pilot but it turns out they're actually good for something after all
If you really want a green card, go get one. Its not that hard, just takes time and possibly academic study. Got cash, get a lawyer. No money, better start reading
A few quick points on this topic, specifically North America.
1: The grass isnt greener just because its overseas. But as a 2-300 hour CPL, you might notice for example that multi IFR instructor jobs are very hard to come by. And very few instructors in Australia log 100 flight in a month and have someone else brief their students. Yip, things are done differently in some countries.
2: You DONT need a green card to fly in the US as an instructor, a meatbomber, or in some cases as a bizjet or charter/freight pilot. Anyone who says otherwise doesnt know their law very well. If you cant be bothered doing the research you'll have to pay a lawyer or give up.
2: You DONT need sponsorship to work in Canada. If you have a degree you can sponsor yourself for permanent residence. They're desperate for qualified immigrants right now, they're running ADVERTISEMENTS for Fs sake.
3: If you have a degree you could be holding a Canadian passport within 3 years, especially if you can be bothered learning a bit of french or have skills other than flying.
4: If you're anticipating Canadian citizenship but want to fly in the US then check out the NAFTA (north american free trade agreement). Again, no green card required.
5: If (as a foreigner) you want to work in Canada or the US, you're a lot better off with an Aviation Degree. It won't make you a better pilot but it turns out they're actually good for something after all
If you really want a green card, go get one. Its not that hard, just takes time and possibly academic study. Got cash, get a lawyer. No money, better start reading
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geez, i couldn't pass this one up........
turbolager,
no offence...but i'd do a little more research. take it from someone who's been there and done that.
for starters....there are very few ways a non citizen can gain employment as a professional pilot in the united states. one for example is via a j-1 visa. which means you do all your ratings with a us flight school and than your allowed to work for the remainder of your visa.
another way is if you hold an unusual or rare type rating. which means before a company sponsors you, they have to advertise for a minimum period of time and than prove to the ins that they can't find an american to do it, and they need to sponsor you. for example...i know of a guy that got in the us because he had over 3000 hrs flying varios warbirds.
and lastly....the nafta agreement isn't as flexible as you think. yes, if you hold a degree, you are allowed to gain an h-1, h-2 visa (unlimited renewals/yearly)...HOWEVER you are ONLY allowed to work in that field. for example...if you hold a degree in agricultural engineering, you are only allowed to work in that field. so you can't claim an agricultural engineering degree on your visa..and than work as an accountant. don't believe me???? i can tell you 3 isolated instances where people from both mexico and canada were asked to leave the united states for that exact reason...of voilating their visa.
i have only heard of one story where a pilot gained work through the nafta agreement. she was a pilot and held a degree in aerospace engineering and obtained work as a test pilot for a light aircraft production company.
and about your canadian comment. yes canada does need immigrants. in fact something like 65% of our population are immigrants. but canada is looking for professionals with degrees and qualifications from only certain countries. don't believe me???? i can name countless of newspaper delivery man, cab drivers, cooks and waiters......and you wouldn't believe some of them. engineers...doctors...ect ect..and none of them can get their credentials recognized. actually, not too long ago there was a newspaper article of a chinese immigrant living in canada. she was one of the chief engineers for the chinese space agency. the newspaper interviewed her on the day china launched a man into space. a few years before china launched a man in space she immigrated to canada........and guess where she was working at the time of the interview......a donut shop!!!!!
anyways just my 0.02 cents...and to the spelling police....i'm a little hung over....so do something better than correct my sentence structure.
cheers
turbolager,
no offence...but i'd do a little more research. take it from someone who's been there and done that.
for starters....there are very few ways a non citizen can gain employment as a professional pilot in the united states. one for example is via a j-1 visa. which means you do all your ratings with a us flight school and than your allowed to work for the remainder of your visa.
another way is if you hold an unusual or rare type rating. which means before a company sponsors you, they have to advertise for a minimum period of time and than prove to the ins that they can't find an american to do it, and they need to sponsor you. for example...i know of a guy that got in the us because he had over 3000 hrs flying varios warbirds.
and lastly....the nafta agreement isn't as flexible as you think. yes, if you hold a degree, you are allowed to gain an h-1, h-2 visa (unlimited renewals/yearly)...HOWEVER you are ONLY allowed to work in that field. for example...if you hold a degree in agricultural engineering, you are only allowed to work in that field. so you can't claim an agricultural engineering degree on your visa..and than work as an accountant. don't believe me???? i can tell you 3 isolated instances where people from both mexico and canada were asked to leave the united states for that exact reason...of voilating their visa.
i have only heard of one story where a pilot gained work through the nafta agreement. she was a pilot and held a degree in aerospace engineering and obtained work as a test pilot for a light aircraft production company.
and about your canadian comment. yes canada does need immigrants. in fact something like 65% of our population are immigrants. but canada is looking for professionals with degrees and qualifications from only certain countries. don't believe me???? i can name countless of newspaper delivery man, cab drivers, cooks and waiters......and you wouldn't believe some of them. engineers...doctors...ect ect..and none of them can get their credentials recognized. actually, not too long ago there was a newspaper article of a chinese immigrant living in canada. she was one of the chief engineers for the chinese space agency. the newspaper interviewed her on the day china launched a man into space. a few years before china launched a man in space she immigrated to canada........and guess where she was working at the time of the interview......a donut shop!!!!!
anyways just my 0.02 cents...and to the spelling police....i'm a little hung over....so do something better than correct my sentence structure.
cheers
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From what I heard your already there NATIT? Should keep your head down next time you run into wrill in the street! Give me a call when/if you get back to AD.
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“Zakpee, post company names? why should I?”
Because it is not easy for anyone to get their first flying job - thus if you really do know some good overseas companies that employ fresh CPLs then it would be decent to share the information…I certainly would!
Anyhow, I think we have given enough of an insight some of the trials and tribulations of working overseas…will leave it at!
Best of luck and effort to all!
Because it is not easy for anyone to get their first flying job - thus if you really do know some good overseas companies that employ fresh CPLs then it would be decent to share the information…I certainly would!
Anyhow, I think we have given enough of an insight some of the trials and tribulations of working overseas…will leave it at!
Best of luck and effort to all!
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OCTA.. sorry man, have no idea what you're on about.
As for the rest of the replies, thanks for taking the time. Is certainly an interesting topic - Aus vs Overseas employment for new guys starting out.
I know there are a heap of opportunities for low time guys in our own country, but it's still interesting to hear of other places where guys may get a start.
As for the rest of the replies, thanks for taking the time. Is certainly an interesting topic - Aus vs Overseas employment for new guys starting out.
I know there are a heap of opportunities for low time guys in our own country, but it's still interesting to hear of other places where guys may get a start.
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For guys/gals wanting to go to deepest,darkest afreaka
Charter companies in Maun, Botswana regulary hire 200-250 hr CPLs at the start of the season. Expect to rock up and wait for 3 months, similar to oz i guess. Great flying, 900hrs/year and for the lucky, progression onto the bongo!
I'm sharing this cause of the apparent lack of knowledge from aussies about this place, the kiwis sure know about it!
For more info, check out the maun threads in the africa forum
For guys/gals wanting to go to deepest,darkest afreaka
Charter companies in Maun, Botswana regulary hire 200-250 hr CPLs at the start of the season. Expect to rock up and wait for 3 months, similar to oz i guess. Great flying, 900hrs/year and for the lucky, progression onto the bongo!
I'm sharing this cause of the apparent lack of knowledge from aussies about this place, the kiwis sure know about it!
For more info, check out the maun threads in the africa forum
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Fresh CPL/IR
Dear every one,
Can any body help me how can I get a fresh start. I am willing to work any where. How can I build hours.
Your advises are required, please help me.
Can any body help me how can I get a fresh start. I am willing to work any where. How can I build hours.
Your advises are required, please help me.
