Hard landing issues???
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Hard landing issues???
Hi there. After a fleet replacement at my company, there are a number of biscuit chuckers off work on compo for numerous injuries from the result of hard landings, is this a common occurence or what?? I mean I have only ever seen one 'incident' on the ATSB website reading something like "upon landing into HTI, 5 Cabin Crew reported muscle pain from the subsequent hard landing?" Imagine being the skipper on that flight, how f**king embarassing, anyway, anyone have any good stories resulting from hard landings, or anyone ever complained about the landing other than the ol' comment to the skipper "I'll send you my physio bill!!!" I means its been so bad (yet getting better) that we've christened the a/c the chiropractor, 'sure to put your neck back in'! This brings up another point, though a reportable matter "or incident" must be submitted if there is an injury, is this a bit much or what to be filling out an incident form and sending it to the ATSB? I mean a SLF git opened a locker into my head the other week and it bruised quite noticeably, "I WAS INJURED", should the capt have submitted an incident form to ATSB??? 
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A while ago I landed a light twin in a howling x-wind and ended up bouncing sideways accross the runway after the 9g touchdown. Strangely all the avionics stopped working at the same time.
Lesson learnt: Know your limits. A Buffalo would have been a better choice of aircraft for the day, it could have landed across the runway into the wind.
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Lesson learnt: Know your limits. A Buffalo would have been a better choice of aircraft for the day, it could have landed across the runway into the wind.
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not sure if you're for real Bwest but if you are I would love to know what a/c type you are talking about. I've nver heard of a plane bi enough to have biscuit chuckers that constistantly lands hard.
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cjam it depends to some extent whether one has been spoiled by an aircraft with very forgiving trailing link u/c and then moves onto something with more sweep, high wing loading and more importantly, straight & stiff u/c. 
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What? You mean my landings weren't good? 
Actually I did once do a bad landing into DRW. Too busy telling a guy new to the drome about various local features, and not busy enough concentrating on what I was doing. The ensuing landing was, shall we say, firm.
A pax in business sitting next to a colleague, said to the colleague, "gee these things land well, don't they", at about the same time I was saying to my F/O, "well I sure planted that one, didn't I".
All this goes to show it's a matter of perception and as pillots, we're only ever as good as our last landing. 
What? You mean my landings weren't good?
Actually I did once do a bad landing into DRW. Too busy telling a guy new to the drome about various local features, and not busy enough concentrating on what I was doing. The ensuing landing was, shall we say, firm.
A pax in business sitting next to a colleague, said to the colleague, "gee these things land well, don't they", at about the same time I was saying to my F/O, "well I sure planted that one, didn't I".
All this goes to show it's a matter of perception and as pillots, we're only ever as good as our last landing.
Look to the end of the runway and not at the touchdown point.
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Originally Posted by Capt Claret
Actually I did once do a bad landing into DRW. Too busy telling a guy new to the drome about various local features, and not busy enough concentrating on what I was doing. The ensuing landing was, shall we say, firm.
Originally Posted by cjam
not sure if you're for real Bwest but if you are I would love to know what a/c type you are talking about. I've nver heard of a plane bi enough to have biscuit chuckers that constistantly lands hard.
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unplug everything at 1000' radio..handfly..no A/T...oh and have a trailing link like the mighty 75..... smooth as a smoooth thingi
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.... and if disengaging A/T is against SOP instructions?
No Clarrie, Bwest is not ITCZ under another handle. I don't think I could intentionally flout so many grammatical rules as he, even allowing for some of my post-NYE posts at a layover port.
BTW, whats an aim point?
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No Clarrie, Bwest is not ITCZ under another handle. I don't think I could intentionally flout so many grammatical rules as he, even allowing for some of my post-NYE posts at a layover port.
BTW, whats an aim point?
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Hmm... had a suspicion you were talking about the fancy new jets here.... they do appear to land 'harder' when one watches... then again, it'd be nearly impossible for it not to seem so, given how slow the 146 looks any time.... 
Hard landings happen to anyone though... was on a DJ flight once, and after landing the F/O remarked, on being asked whose landing it was, "yeah, it was a bit $h!t, wasn't it?!"
they do appear to land 'harder' when one watches... then again, it'd be nearly impossible for it not to seem so, given how slow the 146 looks any time.... Hard landings happen to anyone though... was on a DJ flight once, and after landing the F/O remarked, on being asked whose landing it was, "yeah, it was a bit $h!t, wasn't it?!"
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re: Hard Landing Issues
For a change, was a pax on a red with white writing 73-- some time ago into Cairns. How the rubber jungle stayed up ??????? As I departed the a/c, commented to the biscuit chucker,(who had the eyes downcast, definitely no eye contact with anyone) - "Please tell the driver that landing was 8/10!" She looked at me as if I had a screw loose, until I added "Yeah - on the Richter Scale."
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Aw c'mon Bloggs, I can't take all the credit, afterall you did train me.
Jarse I have heard several F/A comment that ex Dash drivers make better landers! Is that what you mean?
Jarse I have heard several F/A comment that ex Dash drivers make better landers!
Is that what you mean?
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.... and ex-Metro pilots are the only ones doing 'greasers.' 
CC might be experts on touchdowns, but they cannot see the 1500m markers whizz by and the far threshold approaching at 220km/h as we wait for the mains to touchdown!
CC might be experts on touchdowns, but they cannot see the 1500m markers whizz by and the far threshold approaching at 220km/h as we wait for the mains to touchdown!
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I've nver heard of a plane bi enough to have biscuit chuckers
But speaking of Bi-planes, you're probably referring to the Deathstar which is such a lady's machine, it's worse than "Bi". It's downright raving, flouncing, mincing GAY!!
Oh and it only has ONE main-plane.