QANTAS minimum hours.
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QANTAS minimum hours.
OK so the QF website now says (and has done for a while) that for your application to be considered, an applicant must have:
500 hours in command of fixed wing aircraft (excluding ICUS).
I am interested to hear people's opinions of this statement. Does anyone believe (or know of someone) that QF would seriously consider employing you if you had 500hrs say in a C152? I mean this 'meets their criteria'. I fully understand the 500 twin command time requirement for command, and I also understand QF's procedures on this, with regards to ICUS, so I hit 500 hours command time, I grab my IREX and twin endorsement, and then apply, what do you think the response would be?
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500 hours in command of fixed wing aircraft (excluding ICUS).
I am interested to hear people's opinions of this statement. Does anyone believe (or know of someone) that QF would seriously consider employing you if you had 500hrs say in a C152? I mean this 'meets their criteria'. I fully understand the 500 twin command time requirement for command, and I also understand QF's procedures on this, with regards to ICUS, so I hit 500 hours command time, I grab my IREX and twin endorsement, and then apply, what do you think the response would be?
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G'day Capt
As far as i read its not 500 TT- its 500 in command. Interesting thread! Was wondering that for myself- not that i'd want to leave the GA charter scene!
As far as i read its not 500 TT- its 500 in command. Interesting thread! Was wondering that for myself- not that i'd want to leave the GA charter scene!
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"....what do you think the response would be?"
I would think that was an absolute minimum. They probably have thousands of applications before they would need to invoke the minimums.
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yebbut, why make extra work for themselves by setting the minima that low 
If I was in their HR dept, I'd set the minimum hours such that I'd only need to deal with what's required in the nearish future plus maybe a 200% extra allowance to cater for change-of-minds, dropouts, unsuitability, etc.
As C. Northcote Parkinson says in "Parkinsons Law" "The short list"
If I was in their HR dept, I'd set the minimum hours such that I'd only need to deal with what's required in the nearish future plus maybe a 200% extra allowance to cater for change-of-minds, dropouts, unsuitability, etc.
As C. Northcote Parkinson says in "Parkinsons Law" "The short list"
To choose between three hundred people, all well qualified and highly recommended, is not really possible. We are driven therefore to conclude that the mistake lies in the original advertisement. It has attracted too many applications."
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They also take into account academic performance (hsc results/CPL and ATPL exam results etc). The type of hours you have makes a difference too. This is all grouped into some sort of scoring system and then when you make the "cut-off", you get called in.
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I joined QF with 870 Hrs TT. The 500 hours was brought in 21 years ago when I joined, direct entry, no cadetships. So the moral of the story is that it can happen, if you make it happen.
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At times of high recruitment such as about 5 years ago, lots of applicants were getting in with under 1000 hours. When you start, your seniority is based on how many hours you have, and out of 12 on one course I believe the most experienced had 1100 hours. When the demand slows, it seems that a lot of regional drivers, air force etc with several thousand tend to fill a lot of the places at the moment (not all - some with less experience get in).
Or you could do the cadetship, and get 2 years head start on seniority as a bonus.
Or you could do the cadetship, and get 2 years head start on seniority as a bonus.
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Having gone through the process fairly recently, this is how it panned out for myself. Apply it to your situation as you will.
Applied the day my 500 command hour ticked over. At that stage multi time was non existant and TT was about 650.
Was told to update 12 months later.
I updated regularly throughout the next 12 months, and when I did so on the month I was advised to do so, with about 250 multi command and 1200 TT, was given a testing date within days.
I honestly dont think there is a steady rule. Was a fair backlog when I joined the cue so i think that protracted things a bit. Why don't you just give it a go and see what happens?
Applied the day my 500 command hour ticked over. At that stage multi time was non existant and TT was about 650.
Was told to update 12 months later.
I updated regularly throughout the next 12 months, and when I did so on the month I was advised to do so, with about 250 multi command and 1200 TT, was given a testing date within days.
I honestly dont think there is a steady rule. Was a fair backlog when I joined the cue so i think that protracted things a bit. Why don't you just give it a go and see what happens?
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Long live the bloke/ blokett who does some sort of hard yards in the bush. It doesnt matter what you fly. Its all about the character. Something that quiet a few of airline boffins lack.
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I know...it's the nepotism factor....don't want the offspring of the bluebloods being inconvenienced for too long before getting a start date!
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I would have thought that this is the requirement of the Insurers and they publish this so that if any pilots with 400 hours in VHBIC have only themself to blame if they get accepted and break something .
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Just bare in mind guys that QF can move the goal posts whenever they want. I'm pretty sure they have a program in place that recommends experience levels of new recruits based on forcast retirements etc. It's their bat and ball. The guys that I know that have joined the QF ranks in the last 5 years have all varied in experience levels, from highly experienced turbo prop drivers to piston jocks. Luck of the draw I reckon. If you meet the requirement at the time then you may well have some success. If not keep sending in that CV. And good luck to all if QF is what you aspire to.
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Who knows what will happen recruitment wise. 2005 was pretty solid with about 100 new people I think. However, with the advent of Jetstar International, most of the growth is going there so I can't see mainline needing a lot more pilots due to new aircraft. At the very least, 4 A330's are going to Jetstar later this year, and it will be another couple of years before the A380's have a significant number of aircraft. I cannot see the Classic hanging on past then, so at the end of the day, there may be no net aircraft growth. Perhaps even contraction.
The biggest hurdle is also the proposed new retirement age of 65 which is rumoured to come in some time later this year. If that happens, expect very few retirements for the next 5 years. This will have a major influence on recruitment plans.
The biggest hurdle is also the proposed new retirement age of 65 which is rumoured to come in some time later this year. If that happens, expect very few retirements for the next 5 years. This will have a major influence on recruitment plans.
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Recruitment is rumoured to be pretty solid this year.
As far the 500 hours PIC goes, I believe it is little more than a box ticking exercise along the same lines as HSC Maths & Physics.
If you don't have it, application rejected, if you do, then proceed to next hoop. Manage to navigate through enough hoops - welcome to Stage 1, then it is just more hoops from there.
As far the 500 hours PIC goes, I believe it is little more than a box ticking exercise along the same lines as HSC Maths & Physics.
If you don't have it, application rejected, if you do, then proceed to next hoop. Manage to navigate through enough hoops - welcome to Stage 1, then it is just more hoops from there.
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Pilot Recruitment
Approx 26 pilots per A380 plus approx 110 retirements a year for the next five or so years. I don't things will be slowing up that much
Fingers crossed for lots slots
Fingers crossed for lots slots