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206 Crash into Dam West of Ipswich

Old 2nd Jan 2006, 02:26
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206 Crash into Dam West of Ipswich

Folks, anyone able to elaborate on this incident today?
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Old 2nd Jan 2006, 02:37
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Re: 206 Crash into Dam West of Ipswich

Parachute transport.At this stage only 1 survivor possibly 6 dead. Nothing further.
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Old 2nd Jan 2006, 02:52
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Skydivers involved in fatal plane crash
One person has died and four others are missing, feared dead after a plane crash in south-east Queensland.

The aircraft was carrying a group of parachutists when it came down in a dam soon after take-off this morning, west of Ipswich.

It is believed two people have survived and have been airlifted to hospital.

Peter Theodore from the Queensland Fire and Rescue Service says emergency crews are at the scene.

"We apparently had a seven-seater skydiving aircraft that took off for a parachute jump," he said.

"It didn't gain a lot of altitude on our understanding and crashed into a dam. We have QAS (Queensland Ambulance Service) units on site. We have fire service vehicles on scene, plus our technical rescue vehicles from Brisbane are responding."

Safety Bureau spokesman Alan Stray says few details are known at this stage.

"The Australian Transport Safety Bureau has been advised that there's been an accident involving a Cessna 206 - that's a single engine, around about a six or seven seater aircraft, near Ipswich," he said.

"It's believed to have been on parachute operations. We have no other details at this stage."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...1/s1540617.htm

Up to five people are feared dead after a plane carrying parachutists plunged into a dam shortly after take-off near Ipswich west of Brisbane.

The single-engine Cessna 206, operated by the Brisbane Skydiving Centre, plunged into a dam soon after it took off from Willowbank about 11am (AEDT) today.

At least two of the seven people aboard survived, skydiving centre spokeswoman Angela Garvey said.

"A plane has gone down with seven people on board," she told AAP.
She said the wreckage was submerged in the dam.

"There's two survivors so far," she said.

Australian Transport Safety Bureau spokesman Alan Stray earlier said a team was on its way to the crash scene.

"A Cessna 206 conducting parachuting operations crashed shortly after take-off and it is understood to have crashed into a dam," Mr Stray said.

Queensland Fire and Rescue Service crews are at the scene.

"We apparently had a seven-seater skydiving aircraft that took off for a parachute jump," service spokesman Peter Theodore told the ABC.

"It didn't gain a lot of altitude on our understanding and crashed into a dam.

"We have QAS (Queensland Ambulance Service) units on site. We have fire service vehicles on scene, plus our technical rescue vehicles from Brisbane are responding."
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...050376945.html
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Old 2nd Jan 2006, 04:31
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Re: 206 Crash into Dam West of Ipswich

If it's the same machine that was out there a year or so ago, the rego is VH-UYB.

Condolences to the familes of those concerned. Hopefully more survivers can be found.
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Yes it was the same aircraft - I'm hearing engine failure after take off - clipped a tree and then cartwheeled into a dam
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Re: 206 Crash into Dam West of Ipswich

I just saw the scene on TV. Couldn't see the a/c but saw a guy with a chute walking out of the dam.

Condolences to the family and friends of those who didn't make it.
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skydive crash fatal c-206

just heard a cessna 206 with skydivers onboard just went down west of brisbane,ipswich 7 on board 5 dead
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Old 2nd Jan 2006, 08:52
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What a tragedy......

this piece from news.com.au

Five dead in plane crash
From: AAP
January 02, 2006

FIVE people are dead after a plane carrying a group of sky divers plunged into a dam west of Brisbane shortly after take-off today.

Two other people aboard the plane survived - including Brisbane Skydiving Centre owner and founder Brian Scoffell - have been taken to hospital, one found in a paddock with suspected spinal injuries.
Witnesses have told police they saw a plume of smoke coming from the single-engine Cessna 206 before it clipped a tree and crashed into the dam soon after take off about 10.15am (AEST).

Investigators are at the dam, close to an aerodrome at Willowbank near Ipswich west of Brisbane, where the wreckage remains submerged.

Divers are also at the scene, trying to recover four bodies trapped inside. A fifth body was recovered on the bank of the dam.

One of the two survivors, a 27-year-old woman who is believed to have spinal injuries, was found in a paddock close to the dam, with blood streaming down her face.

The other survivor, identified as Mr Scoffell by a friend, suffered a severe arm injury and burns to his upper body.

Both are expected to undergo surgery tonight.

The crash ended what was supposed to have been a day of adrenalin-packed fun for the seven aboard - three skydiving students, three instructors and the pilot.

A Queensland Police spokesman said efforts were focussed on retrieving the four bodies still inside the wreckage.

"Our investigator on site has confirmed there are five dead but four are still in the plane which is submerged upside down," she said.

"We have got our dive squad and our victim identification squad to come and identify the remaining bodies."

The injured man was airlifted to Princess Alexandra Hospital in a satisfactory condition.

The woman was taken to Ipswich Hospital after a friend of the pilot, who was first at the scene, spotted her in a paddock.

Inspector Noel Powers of Ipswich Police said the plane failed to gain altitude after take-off, plunging into the dam about 500m from the Willowbank aerodrome.

He said witnesses saw smoke trailing from the back of the plane before it hit the tree and hurtled into the dam.

"We are talking to witnesses to try and establish the last moments of the flight, but it appears that it definitely had difficulty gaining height," he said.

"The Disaster Victim Identification Squad and the police dive squad are on their way to recover the remaining bodies."

He said a federal aviation safety officer would arrive from Canberra to inspect the site tomorrow, along with Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB).

Counsellors are talking to grieving relatives of the deceased who had gathered at the Brisbane Skydiving Centre, which operated the plane.

Civil Aviation Safety Authority spokesman Peter Gibson said it could take weeks to determine the cause of the crash because light aircraft don't carry black box flight recorders.

"I have told the ATSB investigators that if we get any preliminary indications of mechanical problems with the aircraft to let us know to ensure this doesn't happen to another Cessna 206," he said.

"But that's not going to happen quickly. That could be days, perhaps even weeks.

"Typically, these investigations take quite a while to piece together what really happened.

"And typically it is not just one thing that goes wrong. We have no idea of what it might have been at this early stage."

Australian Parachute Federation chief executive Graeme Windsor said the Brisbane Skydiving Centre was a member.

As such, the federation would be taking an interest in the crash.

Brisbane Skydiving Centre began operations in 1982 and is one of south-east Queensland's longest-running parachute training organisations.

The centre has been operating with two planes over the Willowbank drop zone - a Cessna 206 and a Cessna 182.
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That's correct.

Operating out of Willowbank for Brisbane Skydiver's. The pilot was a good friend of mine and will be missed by all. The pilot and 4 other skydivers were killed. Some newspapers/websites are reporting that the pilot is ok and was taken airlifted to hospital - which is incorrect, as I found out after having my hopes raised momentarily. The owner is also a pilot and was one of the fortunate two who escaped tragedy, but was not the PIC.

see link here:

http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/c...5E1702,00.html
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http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200601/r68605_190273.jpg
Fatal SE Qld skydiving crash investigated
An investigation is under way into a plane crash in south-east Queensland, in which five people died.

The plane took off from the Brisbane Skydiving Centre near Ipswich, west of Brisbane, just before 11:00am AEST.

Three skydiving students, three instructors and the pilot were on board the Cessna 206.

Witnesses have told police the plane had difficulty gaining height, clipped a gum tree and crashed into a small catchment dam on private property.

Police have confirmed five are dead; five bodies have been recovered from the dam.

A man and a woman survived and were taken to hospital.

Investigation

Peter Gibson from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority says experts were at the site this afternoon to conduct initial investigations.

"They'll be beginning the task of piecing together exactly what went wrong," he said.

"They'll be talking to eyewitnesses, forensically going through the doomed flight so that we can get a very good understanding of why this accident happened and importantly try and prevent the same kind of tragedy in the future."

The two survivors have serious injuries and have been taken to hospitals in Brisbane and Ipswich.

Police Inspector Noel Powers says the plane experienced engine trouble just after take-off.

"There appeared to be a puff of black smoke come out from the engine just after take-off," he said.

"The aircraft was then seen to develop trouble trying to gain some height.

"It has clipped a tree and unfortunately it's gone into the dam."

Safety

Graeme Windsor, from the Australian Parachute Federation (APF), says there is no reason to believe the skydiving centre was in any way deficient.

The APF's safety officers are looking into the crash from a parachuting perspective.

He says he would have known some of those involved.

"I always hate to lose members of our fraternity sky diving, but when they're killed in a plane accident that's really terribly sad," he said.

"And the Parachute Federation exists to administer a sport in the safest possible way it can and we do our best to do that.

"But we always recognise that there are tragic consequences when things do go wrong."

Family and friends wanting information about victims of the plane crash can call 1800 100 188.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...1/s1540771.htm

This is so tragic. Condolences to those involved.
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Old 2nd Jan 2006, 11:16
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To all those closely involved in this tragedy, you have my deepest and sincerest condolences.

Historically, PPRuNe has previously become the scene of speculation and "what if " scenarios when some thing such as this happens. Usually with the noblest of intent but sometimes not.

Mr Gibson explains elsewhere that he was probably misquoted by the journo.

Again my condolences to those affected by this tragedy.

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My condolences to the families for their losses.

So very very sad.
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Condolences to the families of the victims and the survivors, get well soon!

The GA Parachuting aircraft seem to be having a bad fortnight! Which is unfortunate, due to the amount of public reluctant to get on a GA aircraft at the moment!
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Condolences to the families concerned. Mr. Towers, I suggest your comments regarding Mr. Gibson are unwise, considering that they are reported by journalists. I suspect that what Mr. Gibson may have said, or meant, was that if there are any immediate issues found by ATSB regarding C206 aircraft, then CASA will act PDQ.
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I suspect that what Mr. Gibson may have said, or meant, was that if there are any immediate issues found by ATSB regarding C206 aircraft, then CASA will act PDQ.
And your comments are no better Sunfish! Only Mr. Gibson knows what he meant!
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Old 2nd Jan 2006, 21:40
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Is it the "norm", to have 7 people in a 206 when conducting parachute operations? Back when i flew them, they were only certified to carry 6.
A very tragic start to the new year. Condolences to all the families.
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Condolences to all involved in this tragic start to the year. SID, I suspect there were 3 tandems on board plus the Pilot. I have seen this done in a 182!
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Mr. Fathom, I was merely pointing out that the words attributed to Mr. Gibson may in fact be inaccurate. Most of you lambast journalists for the quality of aviation reporting. Why do any of you now believe that what has been attrbuted to Mr. Gibson is correct?d
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G'day SID,

When using the 206 for skydive ops you gain a bit of useable load by removing the 5 extra seats, not much though. You can fit 6 skydivers plus pilot provided all skydivers have an approved single point restraint attached during takeoff, landing and flight below 1,000' AGL. One point we always had to be aware of was that during the takeoff, the rear most jumpers would generally lean fwd as much as possible to keep the C of G balanced. Probably because the rear most jumper during the climb would have actually been sitting in what is the luggage station of the cabin.

A mate of mine actually had an engine failure at height in a 206 many years ago. Skydivers all exited ok and my friend managed to land safely albeit with a windshield covered in oil and a con rod hanging out of the crank case.

I had many jumps and flying hours in a 206 in skydiving ops. My sincere condolonces to all concerned.
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Old 3rd Jan 2006, 09:09
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Re: 206 Crash into Dam West of Ipswich

That 206 had the Continental engine removed and replaced with a Quote "350 hp Lycoming". I assume Chieftan variant. This opens new cans of worms. Sincere condolences to those involved.
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