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Old 27th Dec 2005, 02:03
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Parachute Aircraft lands in the water

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Just heard that they dumped a182 in the water off Torqay Airport this afternoon pilot is reported OK, it seems they just keep busting aircraft down that way.

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ABC News Website;

Two survive after plane dives into ocean

A pilot and passenger have escaped unhurt after a light plane crashed off Torquay on Victoria's south-west coast.

The Cessna-172 crashed into the sea about 500 metres off Whites Beach, around 1pm AEDT.

The 19-year-old pilot from Sunbury was taken to Geelong Hospital and treated for shock and minor injuries.

The passenger was treated at the scene.

Senior Constable Carla Coslovich says the pilot was trying to land at the Torquay airstrip after the plane's engine failed.

"At around 200 feet it lined up for another approach to land, again the engine failed and the pilot unfortunately had to put the aircraft down as there was not enough altitude and it landed into the white water, which caused the aircraft to flip," she said.

She says the crew of a police plane witnessed the accident.

"They actually saw this single engine Cessna-172 in the air and it looked like its engine failed around 10,000 feet, they saw that the aircraft and its pilot were attempting to land at the Torquay airstrip."
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Ok... I'll bite

"They actually saw this single engine Cessna-172 in the air and it looked like its engine failed around 10,000 feet, they saw that the aircraft and its pilot were attempting to land at the Torquay airstrip."
Yes... a 172 at 10 grand on a 36C day...

I think Carla Coslovich may still be getting over the two beers she had on Christmas day.

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Old 27th Dec 2005, 04:02
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hi QNIM at least he got off the ground before he crashed
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Old 27th Dec 2005, 04:34
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Aircraft Crash Torquay

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Pilot escapes crash unharmed
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December 27, 2005
A PILOT escaped unharmed today when his light plane crashed into the ocean off a Victorian coastal resort town following an apparent engine failure.

The four-seater Cessna 172 aircraft plane crashed and flipped about 500m off Whites Beach at Torquay, 100km south-west of Melbourne, about 12.40pm (AEDT). Police believe the pilot, a 19-year-old man from the Melbourne suburb of Sunbury, was trying to land at Torquay when the accident happened.

"The engine failed at 10,000 feet (3048m), but the pilot was able to stabilise and was attempting to land when at 2000 feet (610m) the engine failed again and he crashed into whitewater at Whites Beach," a police spokeswoman said.

The pilot was the sole occupant of the plane. He was treated for mild shock by paramedics. No-one else was injured, police said.

Water Police and State Emergency Service crews are working to retrieve the plane.

Police and air safety authorities will investigate the crash

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Should have stuck to the first story, it made as much sense.

A 172 in an unstabilised descent from 10,000 to 2,000 ft?

Police and air safety authorities will investigate?

I should hope they would, if only to find the passenger who appears missing from the first story.
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Old 27th Dec 2005, 07:26
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Q1. Why would you use a C172 for parachute opps?
Q2. How do you get a C172 to 10'000? on a 36c day with 2 pob? (it would take a long time)
Q3. How does a single engine aircraft have a double engine failure?
at 2000 feet (610m) the engine failed again
Hows the pilot now? Thats got to scare the crap out of you.
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Old 27th Dec 2005, 09:10
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Just saw the report on 10 News, it looked more like a 182, not a 172. The extra 70-odd horses would make all the difference at A100. Glad to hear no-one seriously hurt.
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Old 27th Dec 2005, 10:20
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Without sounding too much like an armchair critic...which I am..

How could you miss an airport from 10k?

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I'm new here and only signed up 'cos a friend pointed to this link and I was nearby when it happened.

I had just finished an hours solo in the training are of Geelong when the call went out that this plane had gone in and everyone was on the radio calling for ambulances and emergency services.

I was landing at Barwon Heads in a c172, a few miles east. I had flown the coast just near where the crash occurred, but I didn't see the crash. Here's what I can tell you:

There were parachute opps happening at Toruay from 10k. I had heard one already drop earlier and another was underway. They were dropping in pairs.

It was blowing a howling northerly, maybe 35 knots at that altitude (2k) and that could reall mess up your base turn point. Best glide speed is 65 knots, so you might only have 35 knts ground speed. It was also rough as guts inland and quite dirty on approach. I left flaps at 30 on short final cos it was so blowy.
Torquay airport is quite a way inland. Although I have never landed there I would say it must be at least 1km from the coastline and I wonder what the hell anyone doing a forced landing would be doing over the water?

If it was the parachute guys, they were pretty casual with some of their radio calls, although better then some recently banned operators from this area.

and my whinge: I'm only a new pilot, but it really annoys me that parachutists have to drop on the runway.

If they were in a 172 it would have to be a hawk xp or something to get to 10k in that sort of time. I don't remember them ever making a call with aircraft type in it.

Of course I had told everyone I was going flying so they all freaked when the news came in.

Remember, all the above is from a low time pilot who didn't witness the event, but was nearby and is pretty clueless

Glad to hear they got out ok.

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Old 27th Dec 2005, 10:42
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I did hear a Cessna meat-bombing from 10,000 at Torquay this morning. Am a little hurt he didn't mention his probs or hit the squawker. Is it possible his avoiding turn from said meat bombs took him over the water and he only found out the motor was no longer doing anything useful when he was in a position and level that left him few options?
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Old 27th Dec 2005, 10:46
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I'm not sure about the second run, but the first lot he dropped about a mile north of the arfield (away from the water) to allow for the wind. The wind had picked up by the second run. I heard a spiritied conversation between him and an aircraft tracking coastal at 4k and trying to avoid mincing parachutists. In the end the guy tracking coastal elected to head a couple of miles offshore and dodge the whole event.

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definately a 182, recognised it when i saw it on the news, i wasnt in the captains seat but it does beg a lot of questions

cant ever imagine not making the field if engine failed on descent

pretty sad to see a plane you used to fly destroyed

suppose will just have to wait and hear the full story

are you gunna rebuild it benny?
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Old 27th Dec 2005, 20:58
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Did ya see the clowns with the tractor pull the engine out of the airframe????
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Old 27th Dec 2005, 21:24
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It was a Cessna 182G first registrered in OZ in 1965.
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Old 27th Dec 2005, 21:51
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Does anyone know the rego of the aircraft?
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From the photo in today's Age, looks like DGY. And looks like a writeoff - very nasty kink in the fuselage.

The tractor that pulled it out of the drink is a red International Harvester, regd something-H 327, in case you're after that one for your collection.

The tractor boffins seem to have ripped half the nose off in the recovery.

With a 35kt northerly, and starting from 10,000, I'm surprised he didn't land it on King Island.

Still, any landing you can walk (or swim) away from...

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Old 28th Dec 2005, 04:30
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Gday

Looking at today’s Herald Sun I notice that the photo of the pilot (caption, Kicking himself, the pilot is checked out by paramedics) is wearing the Tiger Moth World uniform shirt this after the management denied to the media that they, Torquay Airport had anything to do with the crashed aircraft.
The aircraft departed Torquay flown by a Torquay employed pilot with intentions of dropping the parachutes on Torquay and I imagine he was intending to land at Torquay because he was trying to call them all the way down.
Sounds like a load of cr@p to me, so that makes it the third aircraft written off in under two years by Tiger Moth World pilots, the mind boggles.
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Looking at the photo’s I don’t think they would’ve had to pull too hard to remove the engine as it would departed the mounts before they touched it
It is alleged from those at the scene said there was no fuel slick around the wreck.
Anyway another good old girl lost.

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Old 28th Dec 2005, 04:46
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Herald Sun
"It is expected the plane, which had taken off from the Tiger Moth World Adventure Park in Torquay, will not fly again ........."
That part of the report seems to be totally correct.
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Pass me a shifter and my biggest hammer.... It will fly again he's to much of a tight arse to scrap it... The engine was only about 300 hrs over TBO!
Wonder if I can save my carpet from it?
Maybe he'll give us a job putting it back together dogma?
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