A320 question
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enjoyable posts on the 320 speed brakes....obviously it is an option to be used when nessacery.....above fl310 they wont come out,AP on only 1/2 brake,AP off = full speed brakes.....generally referred to as the :
PPPD....PISS POOR PLANNING DEVICE!!! gulity as charged
hatu patu
PPPD....PISS POOR PLANNING DEVICE!!! gulity as charged
hatu patu
Back in the dim dark past when men where men and ATCs did whet WE told them to do, it was considered a no-no to use speed brakes. Indeed, I remember flying with one Captain who would gladly fly extra track miles to burn off height/speed rather than use the brakes. When asked why? "Because the brakes cause drag, and thatt's inefficient!!!" 
In these days of high traffic density, delayed descents and last-minute speed requests, if you are high and fast, you have one choice. Slap up the boards and get the bitch down!!
It is much poorer airmanship not to use every available resource to control the aircrafts profile than to "Hang on in there" and end up with a high, fast approach from which you SHOULD go-around!
Now Amos,
Anyone who doesn't know about A320 ops and therefore asks about A320 ops is a Galah.....You must be a JOY to fly with!!
You might know about A320 ops, ever heard of common courtesy?
In these days of high traffic density, delayed descents and last-minute speed requests, if you are high and fast, you have one choice. Slap up the boards and get the bitch down!!
It is much poorer airmanship not to use every available resource to control the aircrafts profile than to "Hang on in there" and end up with a high, fast approach from which you SHOULD go-around!
Now Amos,
Anyone who doesn't know about A320 ops and therefore asks about A320 ops is a Galah.....You must be a JOY to fly with!!
You might know about A320 ops, ever heard of common courtesy?
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Wizofoz...ditto on your remarks...my question would be ,in what part of the world were the use of speed brakes considered a no no....I have flown jets for 20+yrs and have never had a underlying feeling that the use of S/Bs was considered poor mgt ....the only thing I can recall being considered a no no for this type of thing was/is ,the use of thrust reversers(airborne) on some models of the older DC-8,s ....I have sat in the jumpseat on one occassion and now understand why....but I believe this manuver is a last ditch effort to"bring the bitch down"....I, like you use the S/B,s as a tool,depending on the situation.....the chop and drop STARS sometimes give you no other option
Harks back, I think, to the days of 707s and DC8s, with airspace set-ups which meant elegantly keeping the throttles closed until 1500'. The attitude persisted in some "Old school" types, but is thankfully pretty much consigned to history.
