Charter and Toursit Av. Companies for New Commercial Pilots
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Charter and Toursit Av. Companies for New Commercial Pilots
Hi all,
I am a private pilot studying out of Bankstown Aiport in Sydney, and will soon be coming up to the time of getting my commercial license.
Then entering the huge world of Aviation.
I am trying to find Charter and Tourist flight companies around Australia that i can get my name to, however am struggling to find some names. Maybe i am just not looking in the right places.
I was hoping some of you could help me out with some names. That would be awesome.
Regards,
Andrew
I am a private pilot studying out of Bankstown Aiport in Sydney, and will soon be coming up to the time of getting my commercial license.
Then entering the huge world of Aviation.
I am trying to find Charter and Tourist flight companies around Australia that i can get my name to, however am struggling to find some names. Maybe i am just not looking in the right places.
I was hoping some of you could help me out with some names. That would be awesome.
Regards,
Andrew
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Hi Woomera.
My apologise.
Just new to this forum so i haven't realised.
Andrew
Hi Woomera,
just had a read of the threads, and still haven\'t got any positive business names that i could apply for.
Maybe i\'m not looking in the right places.
Could any please help out a fellow PPL holder?
Andrew
My apologise.
Just new to this forum so i haven't realised.
Andrew
Hi Woomera,
just had a read of the threads, and still haven\'t got any positive business names that i could apply for.
Maybe i\'m not looking in the right places.
Could any please help out a fellow PPL holder?
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Jeez
I find it incredible you can find NOTHING.
Invariably someone posts a question like this every week! Plus if you asked around wherever you did your flying surely you would get some idea....
Perhaps you should start with the yellow pages....
- TC
Invariably someone posts a question like this every week! Plus if you asked around wherever you did your flying surely you would get some idea....
Perhaps you should start with the yellow pages....
- TC
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Hi TC.
Just browsed through all the threads on this forum and have managed to scruff up a few names.
However all of them need alot of flying experience for employment.
My flying school has given me a few good names. However would like to take as many opportunities available to me.
Regards,
AD
Just browsed through all the threads on this forum and have managed to scruff up a few names.
However all of them need alot of flying experience for employment.
My flying school has given me a few good names. However would like to take as many opportunities available to me.
Regards,
AD
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This is the best I can offer mate, having done so myself along with many others:
Choose a possible low time requirement tourist town in the Kimberly to base yourself (eg: Broome, Kununurra, Halls Creek, Derby, Fitzroy Crossing). Research the towns and the various operators, and make a decision!! Best time to get to town in the Kimberley is between November - February. The earlier you arrive, the sooner you are most likely to get a look in.
When you arrive in town get yourself a non-flying job where you will meet people (bar, hotel etc). Everyone has about the same experience - between 200 and 300TT. The most important asset you can have is being a good bloke that the boss could have a beer with and that passengers would get along with.
Operators include:
BROOME
King Leopold Air
Broome Air Services
Broome Aviation
KUNUNURRA
Slingair
Alligator Airways
HALLS CREEK
Oasis Air
FITZROY CROSSING
Geikie Air Charter
DERBY
Golden Eagle
All the best mate, and to all those thinking of heading up north good luck. You'll have the time of your life.
P4L
Choose a possible low time requirement tourist town in the Kimberly to base yourself (eg: Broome, Kununurra, Halls Creek, Derby, Fitzroy Crossing). Research the towns and the various operators, and make a decision!! Best time to get to town in the Kimberley is between November - February. The earlier you arrive, the sooner you are most likely to get a look in.
When you arrive in town get yourself a non-flying job where you will meet people (bar, hotel etc). Everyone has about the same experience - between 200 and 300TT. The most important asset you can have is being a good bloke that the boss could have a beer with and that passengers would get along with.
Operators include:
BROOME
King Leopold Air
Broome Air Services
Broome Aviation
KUNUNURRA
Slingair
Alligator Airways
HALLS CREEK
Oasis Air
FITZROY CROSSING
Geikie Air Charter
DERBY
Golden Eagle
All the best mate, and to all those thinking of heading up north good luck. You'll have the time of your life.
P4L
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P4L you are a saviour.
Just what i have been looking for.
Is it ok if i ask you a few more questions about Moving Up North in WA?
DO you think it is necessary to move over there before you get a flying job?
I just think its a bit risky especially if you're not garunteed anything, if you know what i mean.
AD
Just what i have been looking for.
Is it ok if i ask you a few more questions about Moving Up North in WA?
DO you think it is necessary to move over there before you get a flying job?
I just think its a bit risky especially if you're not garunteed anything, if you know what i mean.
AD
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Aduma
Only coz you're new and a bit unaware.
Pilot4life has given you good information.
Here's a bit more. Forget about sending out resumes, they will, at your experience level,
just go in the bin and wont warrant a reply. Sorry if that's harsh, but that's how it works.
OK, so that means you have to leave home, friends, your comfort zone and actually turn up in person.
Bring your resume with you, you can hand it over if asked, if not, save it for the next interview.
Checklist before departure:
1. Dangerous Goods Awareness Certificate.
(can't fly pax or freight without one, hard to arrange getting one in the bush.)
2. WAC charts for the area you are targetting, again hard to get outside the big smoke
3. CDMA mobile phone: Your GSM one will probably only be useful as an alarm clock.
You can port your existing phone number across to CDMA with either Telstra or Optus.
Every community in the bush with over 500 popn has a CDMA cell,
and all support CDMA 1X for high speed data (up to 150 KB's) for your laptop.
4. Hospitality or fruit / vegie picking skills / experience, see other post.
5, A resilient attitude to handle the knockbacks until the job happens, which it will eventually, but not on your timetable.
6. A couple of white shirts, and a couple of blue shirts, to cover the possibilities
7. Some Cessna 200 familiarisation prior to heading off.
Only coz you're new and a bit unaware.
Pilot4life has given you good information.
Here's a bit more. Forget about sending out resumes, they will, at your experience level,
just go in the bin and wont warrant a reply. Sorry if that's harsh, but that's how it works.
OK, so that means you have to leave home, friends, your comfort zone and actually turn up in person.
Bring your resume with you, you can hand it over if asked, if not, save it for the next interview.
Checklist before departure:
1. Dangerous Goods Awareness Certificate.
(can't fly pax or freight without one, hard to arrange getting one in the bush.)
2. WAC charts for the area you are targetting, again hard to get outside the big smoke
3. CDMA mobile phone: Your GSM one will probably only be useful as an alarm clock.
You can port your existing phone number across to CDMA with either Telstra or Optus.
Every community in the bush with over 500 popn has a CDMA cell,
and all support CDMA 1X for high speed data (up to 150 KB's) for your laptop.
4. Hospitality or fruit / vegie picking skills / experience, see other post.
5, A resilient attitude to handle the knockbacks until the job happens, which it will eventually, but not on your timetable.
6. A couple of white shirts, and a couple of blue shirts, to cover the possibilities
7. Some Cessna 200 familiarisation prior to heading off.
In the NT and Qld:
NT:
Northern Air Charter - Piston singles/Multi
Air Ngukurr - Piston singles/Multi (maybe turbine)
Air Frontier - Singles/Multi
Chartair - Singles/ Multi
QLD:
Savannah Aviation - usual stuff
Air Mt Isa/Westwing Aviation - more experience necessary but could get lucky!
Miscellaneous stuff near Cairns. - Again usually IFR so more exp.
I think alot of operators like the 500-700hr min these days (instructing/meat bombing/private flying) but you at the end of the day its up to the chief pilot and can be waived for the 'right' person.
Generally the guys i met on the trek north had a trade that they could find work in while they waited for a flying gig, or had previous work experience and were quite well rounded. I got a job with low hours and no 200 series experience so if i could then you can too. Be positive and have a good attitude and it will all fit into place!
Sitting in the pool at the backpackers (with the backpackers )
and having a beer while watching the thunderstorms in the distance was one of the better times while on the job hunt.
As has been said before, we've all been there!
Good luck and pm if you would like further info.
cheers
-ItsNUTZ!
p.s If you do the drive up make sure you have a reliable, simple to work on car for the trek up north. i.e commodore/falcon and remember the jerry!
NT:
Northern Air Charter - Piston singles/Multi
Air Ngukurr - Piston singles/Multi (maybe turbine)
Air Frontier - Singles/Multi
Chartair - Singles/ Multi
QLD:
Savannah Aviation - usual stuff
Air Mt Isa/Westwing Aviation - more experience necessary but could get lucky!
Miscellaneous stuff near Cairns. - Again usually IFR so more exp.
I think alot of operators like the 500-700hr min these days (instructing/meat bombing/private flying) but you at the end of the day its up to the chief pilot and can be waived for the 'right' person.
Generally the guys i met on the trek north had a trade that they could find work in while they waited for a flying gig, or had previous work experience and were quite well rounded. I got a job with low hours and no 200 series experience so if i could then you can too. Be positive and have a good attitude and it will all fit into place!
Sitting in the pool at the backpackers (with the backpackers )
and having a beer while watching the thunderstorms in the distance was one of the better times while on the job hunt. As has been said before, we've all been there!
Good luck and pm if you would like further info.
cheers
-ItsNUTZ!
p.s If you do the drive up make sure you have a reliable, simple to work on car for the trek up north. i.e commodore/falcon and remember the jerry!
He sounds a bit young fer Darwhine....
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Hi All!
Thank you to DUXNUTZ and Mainframe for their awesome input to this thread. You guys have helped me out heaps.
Have learnt that i must leave my comofrt zone and find a job before finding a flying gig wherever i want to go by the sounds of it.
Darwhine?
Where is that?
Andrew
Thank you to DUXNUTZ and Mainframe for their awesome input to this thread. You guys have helped me out heaps.
Have learnt that i must leave my comofrt zone and find a job before finding a flying gig wherever i want to go by the sounds of it.
Darwhine?
Where is that?
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Nobody seems to have mentioned smaller operators. If you can, get in your car and head out on a road trip! Make your way towards the Kimberley, but stop at every airstrip along the way. You never know when they might need a pilot. As everyone says it's all about being in the right place at the right time!!
Good luck
Good luck
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Excuse my ignorance.. lol, but seriously guys where is this Darwhine?
You're not talking about Darwin are you?
I've Googled it and all, and still no luck.
AD
You're not talking about Darwin are you?
I've Googled it and all, and still no luck.
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Mate, can I recommend you wait awhile, do alot of reading and research first, THEN ask the questions. A Google search is no substitute for read knowledge or maturity.
There are many other ways to seek out and find Company names and addresses.
Don't expect it to fall on your lap or people to hand it to you (ie on here.) especially when dollars/a job is concerned. Get street smart - how many other people around Oz (& the world) do you think are reading this thread, taking it all in, saying nothing and applying to those companies mentioned above???!
Think about it!
Find a register of Australian Charter Companies and use the phone!
There are many other ways to seek out and find Company names and addresses.
Don't expect it to fall on your lap or people to hand it to you (ie on here.) especially when dollars/a job is concerned. Get street smart - how many other people around Oz (& the world) do you think are reading this thread, taking it all in, saying nothing and applying to those companies mentioned above???!
Think about it!
Find a register of Australian Charter Companies and use the phone!
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Why is it that when someone asks a valid question the vitriol starts to flow at a million miles an hour? Why can't those of you put the same effort into helping someone as you do trying to wear them down. The only thing you lot wear down is your respective knobs... and everyone elses's patience from listening to you whinge.
Anyway.... aduma do a quick search of D+G using key words like "first job" "hire/hiring" "Jobs" "Whispers" etc. You'll be amazed what pops up when you start getting creative with your search terms.
Also look up a couple of posters by the name of "Kimberleybound", "Jex" and "The Goss". The last one I can tell you (no I am not going to let on how I know
) was trying to do a good thing for people in your position, but had to can it due to a minority whinging about not being included.... 
Try Here:
There is much to be found, all you have to do is dig in the right place.
OpsN.
Anyway.... aduma do a quick search of D+G using key words like "first job" "hire/hiring" "Jobs" "Whispers" etc. You'll be amazed what pops up when you start getting creative with your search terms.
Also look up a couple of posters by the name of "Kimberleybound", "Jex" and "The Goss". The last one I can tell you (no I am not going to let on how I know
) was trying to do a good thing for people in your position, but had to can it due to a minority whinging about not being included.... Try Here:
There is much to be found, all you have to do is dig in the right place.
OpsN.
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Hey OpsN.
Thank you soooo uch for your help first of all
and second of all for your support.
All the criticism i take in stride i guess. I hear it is quite a big thing in the industry im keen to get into.
But on the other hand, isn't it the same in all industries?
Just the same still find aviation the greatest and most unique industry in the world. Can't wait to become a part of it.
Thank you for all your help so far!
AD
Thank you soooo uch for your help first of all
and second of all for your support.
All the criticism i take in stride i guess. I hear it is quite a big thing in the industry im keen to get into.
But on the other hand, isn't it the same in all industries?
Just the same still find aviation the greatest and most unique industry in the world. Can't wait to become a part of it.
Thank you for all your help so far!
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Here is a tip:
King Leopold Air (Broome) will hire you with about 250hrs if you stick around, work in town and present as a reasonable, keen person.
Kakadu Air (Jabiru) and Air Frontier are operators that might offer you a start.
Always remember your first job is one no one else with a little bit of expereince wants.
DO NOT GO TO KUNNUNURRA. DO NOT ENTERTAIN THE THOUGHT OF GOING TO KUNNUNURRA. DO NOT PASS THROUGH KUNNUNURRA. THIS PLACE WILL WASTE YOUR TIME AND ENERGY.
Try skydiving companies or cattle stations.
DO NOT PHONE ANYONE with 250 hours, its about as fruitful as asking a Bali local for directions. Visit them in person and get to know them. It will be a mate that gets you your first job, no one else wants to give you the break they never got.
Happy hunting
King Leopold Air (Broome) will hire you with about 250hrs if you stick around, work in town and present as a reasonable, keen person.
Kakadu Air (Jabiru) and Air Frontier are operators that might offer you a start.
Always remember your first job is one no one else with a little bit of expereince wants.
DO NOT GO TO KUNNUNURRA. DO NOT ENTERTAIN THE THOUGHT OF GOING TO KUNNUNURRA. DO NOT PASS THROUGH KUNNUNURRA. THIS PLACE WILL WASTE YOUR TIME AND ENERGY.
Try skydiving companies or cattle stations.
DO NOT PHONE ANYONE with 250 hours, its about as fruitful as asking a Bali local for directions. Visit them in person and get to know them. It will be a mate that gets you your first job, no one else wants to give you the break they never got.
Happy hunting