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Askari and Dookie,
There is one very sound reason why Boy Wonder appeared at the council meeting pleading their case for additional facilities on the airport. HM could not be seen to be slamming council as he remains dependent on their goodwill come 'annual handout time' and to upset the apple cart would be suicidal. Trouble is, council managed to get Boy Wonder to agree that the parent company was indeed the AAP so now the cat is out of the bag big time!
On the issue of the baggage handlers, the union is involved and letters have been forwarded to all those concerned from management and can you believe this claim in the letter:
This is from the same organisation that has for years and years, underpaid their aircrew staff. Only hope now is that the pilots employed by this organisation get to see these letters and get themselves organised for a better deal too!
There is one very sound reason why Boy Wonder appeared at the council meeting pleading their case for additional facilities on the airport. HM could not be seen to be slamming council as he remains dependent on their goodwill come 'annual handout time' and to upset the apple cart would be suicidal. Trouble is, council managed to get Boy Wonder to agree that the parent company was indeed the AAP so now the cat is out of the bag big time!
On the issue of the baggage handlers, the union is involved and letters have been forwarded to all those concerned from management and can you believe this claim in the letter:
all of these issues involve considerable time, disruption and cost to our business, however we feel that this is a process we must undertake to ensure that your rights and conditions of employment are protected.
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Collie,
Re the cat is out of the bag.
You may not have access to The Illawarra Mercury:
Here is part of the article that appeared in the mercury on Monday 6th, June 2005.
NSW AIR FLYING
CHARTER OFF AND RUNNING
If you though today marked only the start of passenger flights from the Illawarra to Melbourne you would be wrong.
It also marks the formal launch of a service for up to three passengers to Newcastle, Canberra, Albury, Bathurst, Moruya….in fact almost anywhere in Australia.
NSW Air, the charter service launched last year and owned by Australian Aerial Patrol, took delivery of a BE76 aircraft in April and will launch its fares today.
The charter company already caters for groups of up to 20 passengers and sees the QantasLink service not as competition, but as a significant boost to operations.
“This gives you the ability to determine your own schedule,” NSW Air business manager said. “The aircraft belongs to you for the whole day.”
The company has also won the contract to perform the baggage handling, check-in, marshalling and refuelling for QantasLink.
It will funnel all profits back to the aerial patrol, which is a community-funded service performing beach patrols and rescue services.
Re the cat is out of the bag.
You may not have access to The Illawarra Mercury:
Here is part of the article that appeared in the mercury on Monday 6th, June 2005.
NSW AIR FLYING
CHARTER OFF AND RUNNING
If you though today marked only the start of passenger flights from the Illawarra to Melbourne you would be wrong.
It also marks the formal launch of a service for up to three passengers to Newcastle, Canberra, Albury, Bathurst, Moruya….in fact almost anywhere in Australia.
NSW Air, the charter service launched last year and owned by Australian Aerial Patrol, took delivery of a BE76 aircraft in April and will launch its fares today.
The charter company already caters for groups of up to 20 passengers and sees the QantasLink service not as competition, but as a significant boost to operations.
“This gives you the ability to determine your own schedule,” NSW Air business manager said. “The aircraft belongs to you for the whole day.”
The company has also won the contract to perform the baggage handling, check-in, marshalling and refuelling for QantasLink.
It will funnel all profits back to the aerial patrol, which is a community-funded service performing beach patrols and rescue services.
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All the chooks have come home to roost......
Appears the QantasLink baggage handlers have held a stop-working meeting two mornings ago in an effort to finally get a fair days pay. Here is a copy of the letter reportedly presented to each passenger seeking their patience whilst issues were discussed. Flight delayed for a few hours at considerable cost to QantasLink.
Quote:
___________________________________________________
Dear Customer,
The workers of NSWAir that perform this contract on behalf of QantasLink have attempted to negotiate fair pay and conditions with their employer for more than 3 months without any success.
The workers of NSWAir were put on an unfair contract in June 2005, the conditions of this unfair contract are,
3 weeks annual leave
No holiday loading
No shift allowance
No overtime payments
No wages paid for training – all employees trained for 4 weeks without pay
No first aid box for employees
The workers of NSWAir apologise for any inconveniences caused by this morning’s meeting.
The workers and their union are committed to serving the airline industry in the Illawarrra and are seeking your support to ensure a safe and a fair outcome for the workers of NSWAir.
____________________________________________________
Better get this mess sorted real quick otherwise the old Red Roo will be hop, hop hopping away real soon!
Quote:
___________________________________________________
Dear Customer,
The workers of NSWAir that perform this contract on behalf of QantasLink have attempted to negotiate fair pay and conditions with their employer for more than 3 months without any success.
The workers of NSWAir were put on an unfair contract in June 2005, the conditions of this unfair contract are,
3 weeks annual leave
No holiday loading
No shift allowance
No overtime payments
No wages paid for training – all employees trained for 4 weeks without pay
No first aid box for employees
The workers of NSWAir apologise for any inconveniences caused by this morning’s meeting.
The workers and their union are committed to serving the airline industry in the Illawarrra and are seeking your support to ensure a safe and a fair outcome for the workers of NSWAir.
____________________________________________________
Better get this mess sorted real quick otherwise the old Red Roo will be hop, hop hopping away real soon!
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Jazzycat,
Quick Question(s)?
If the Aerial Patrol gets funds from:
NSWAir Charters and Airwork,
Baggage Handler contract,
Aerial Patrol Flight Training,
Shell Fuel outlet,
SAR contract for hours flown AND a standby rate,
telemarketting all of Australia for funds,
sponsorship from the golden arches and about 10 other local businesses,
and then doesn't pay landing fees for their ops and
gets their rent back in a lump sum annually,
how does this mob retain their charity status and have the front to put their hands out annually for handouts from all the local councils and state and federal governments? just for flying up and down the beaches every couple of days?
Quick Question(s)?
If the Aerial Patrol gets funds from:
NSWAir Charters and Airwork,
Baggage Handler contract,
Aerial Patrol Flight Training,
Shell Fuel outlet,
SAR contract for hours flown AND a standby rate,
telemarketting all of Australia for funds,
sponsorship from the golden arches and about 10 other local businesses,
and then doesn't pay landing fees for their ops and
gets their rent back in a lump sum annually,
how does this mob retain their charity status and have the front to put their hands out annually for handouts from all the local councils and state and federal governments? just for flying up and down the beaches every couple of days?
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Larry, Curley and Barney all knew about the stop work meeting happening at the airport and called in all their chips to make sure it didn't hit the media!
Now is that power or what?
Now is that power or what?
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Sources say that QantasLink were not happy about this happening as they had been informed by management that there were no issues outstanding with the workers........seems someone has been telling the odd porky!
QantasLink knows that this issue could flow over to their 'other' workers and anyone who believes they are going to hang around and jeopardise their national ops for a few bums in seats out of this little backwater better think again! Talk is if the issues aren't settled r e a l quick, then the contract will go to someone who will do the right thing by their workers!
The real reason why HM is digging in and trying to screw the workers over through NSWAir is that they entered into the contract at such a low figure that they now are not generating sufficient funds to meet their obligations to the workers and the money is coming out of their pockets.......herein lies one very BIG issue; what element of Aerial Patrol funding is being channelled to NSWAir? AAP is a charity; NSWAir is not!
Time the ATO and ACCC took a close look at how this scam is structured and where does all this money really go?
QantasLink knows that this issue could flow over to their 'other' workers and anyone who believes they are going to hang around and jeopardise their national ops for a few bums in seats out of this little backwater better think again! Talk is if the issues aren't settled r e a l quick, then the contract will go to someone who will do the right thing by their workers!
The real reason why HM is digging in and trying to screw the workers over through NSWAir is that they entered into the contract at such a low figure that they now are not generating sufficient funds to meet their obligations to the workers and the money is coming out of their pockets.......herein lies one very BIG issue; what element of Aerial Patrol funding is being channelled to NSWAir? AAP is a charity; NSWAir is not!
Time the ATO and ACCC took a close look at how this scam is structured and where does all this money really go?
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Truth in Advertising?
The following quotes have been uplifted directly from the NSWAir Pty Ltd website:
On the issue of charters they claim:
On Services they claim:
NSWAir Pty Ltd is known to have conducted no more than 5 charters ] in 18 months since their launch. What right have they to make these scandalous claims of operating aircraft that they clearly don't and that they have extensive government, corporate and emergency services experience?
Perhaps Mr LK might like to enlighten us?
NSW Air operates a wide range of aircraft ranging from light twin engine aircraft through to business jet aircraft.[/
NSW Air also specilises in Snow Tours to the Perisher Blue snowfields. Be whisked away in comfort and safety to the snowfields.
NSW Air is full service provider of aviation services. With extensive experience with government, corporate and emergency service personnel our team is able to provide you with the best quality service
Perhaps Mr LK might like to enlighten us?
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Lets face it at the end of the day the council is the only the landlord of the airport, I believe that the baggage handlers took everyone by suprise with their stopwork meeting earlier this week.
This including the council.
This including the council.
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Better late than never!
The media might have missed the HM farce last week with the baggage handlers stop-work meeting but alas, it made the local papers today.......a day when IR was front page news right across the nation!
Betcha 10 to 1 that one HM from Wollongong is a major supporter of the new laws..........just a bit early with the implementation!
Betcha 10 to 1 that one HM from Wollongong is a major supporter of the new laws..........just a bit early with the implementation!
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haha good call collie..
maybe we could suggest that HM be hired as the 'new face' of the federal government's IR ad campaign; .. in order to earn some extra funds for the 'charity'
maybe we could suggest that HM be hired as the 'new face' of the federal government's IR ad campaign; .. in order to earn some extra funds for the 'charity'
What do NSWAir actually operate on their AOC?
