Pilot takes former employer to court
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Pilot takes former employer to court
Folks - watch this space.....just when NZ aviation seems to be settling down again after some media attention about pilots taking employers to court (and losing!) we have another.......
Apparently the individual was sacked from a reputable GA operator for being an absolute muppet and after it dawned upon this person that a dismissal is rather a smudge on ones CV he has enlisted some flash lawyers (with daddy's money) to try and "turn back time".....
Win or lose the attention will do his career aspirations no good whatsover!
Apparently the individual was sacked from a reputable GA operator for being an absolute muppet and after it dawned upon this person that a dismissal is rather a smudge on ones CV he has enlisted some flash lawyers (with daddy's money) to try and "turn back time".....
Win or lose the attention will do his career aspirations no good whatsover!
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Based on some of the rot that gets posted on these pages these days the terms " sacked for being a muppet" could mean anything and the term " reputable GA employer" could also mean absolutely anything. He could be a t*sser sacked from a good employer or he could be a great employee sacked by a dodgey rat with a few planes and a mobile phone. It all depends on one's personal bias when it hits an internet chat room.
I'm sure that this one little case, whatever it may be, is hardly the death knell for anything. Lets see what the court says, if it proceeds. That's the safest way to the facts isn't it?
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I'm sure that this one little case, whatever it may be, is hardly the death knell for anything. Lets see what the court says, if it proceeds. That's the safest way to the facts isn't it?
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I don't know the employer or the employee or any facts whatsoever but I am firmly on the side of the employer on this one.
I mean one can't really expect people to fly with a puppet. Although I guess if it was freight there would be a case to answer.
Apparently the individual was sacked from a reputable GA operator for being an absolute muppet
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Me too. I mean how can you seriously expect a muppet to make command decisions under pressure.If he was flying twins then I seriously doubt his wooly legs would have been strong enough to counter the yaw induced by an engine failure on take off, and everyone knows that their button eyes are prone to popping off in turbulence. It's just rediculous.
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then the muppet gets picked up by the opposition to go fly for them?
now does that mean the new operator are muppets or that the first operator lost a good thing?
i think the the first option.
muppets are everywhere and they show there faces in all the wrong places at all the wrong times.
muppets are muppets cos they are full of stuffing and a hand up their backsides. take the hand out and they're nothing
now does that mean the new operator are muppets or that the first operator lost a good thing?
i think the the first option.
muppets are everywhere and they show there faces in all the wrong places at all the wrong times.
muppets are muppets cos they are full of stuffing and a hand up their backsides. take the hand out and they're nothing
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In my opinion the VERDICT is all ready out !
Air adventures no 2 - ready in waiting!
Sexy
P.S Apologies for any offence caused to muppet lovers - I to have soft spot for small fury farm animals!
Air adventures no 2 - ready in waiting!
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P.S Apologies for any offence caused to muppet lovers - I to have soft spot for small fury farm animals!
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The Verdict
Well the verdict is out, and it looks like Sexy Time is the real muppet, for calling the facts before they are really decided!
It was found that the "Reputable GA Employers," decision to dismiss the "Muppet Pilot," was not a decision which a fair and reasonable employer could make in all the circumstances.
Not only that but the employee was found to be completely blameless in that he in no way contributed to the dismissal.
The dismissal was found to be the result of poor training and was carried out in a premptory fashion.
Lets also consider the following:
The employee gave the employer every opportunity to settle out of court, including the offer of paying his own legal fees provided the employer removed the dismissal and put it down to a resignation. They refused and said they would rather go to court.
Additionally after no extra flying training the employee was employed by the opposition, and successfully passed his check straight away.
Something deeper here! I think so.
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It was found that the "Reputable GA Employers," decision to dismiss the "Muppet Pilot," was not a decision which a fair and reasonable employer could make in all the circumstances.
Not only that but the employee was found to be completely blameless in that he in no way contributed to the dismissal.
The dismissal was found to be the result of poor training and was carried out in a premptory fashion.
Lets also consider the following:
The employee gave the employer every opportunity to settle out of court, including the offer of paying his own legal fees provided the employer removed the dismissal and put it down to a resignation. They refused and said they would rather go to court.
Additionally after no extra flying training the employee was employed by the opposition, and successfully passed his check straight away.
Something deeper here! I think so.
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I agree with 118.8.
In fact the current employees of the employer are the biggest losers. If money has to be spent on fines etc then there is less money available to upgrade the fleet or to pay higher wages.
In fact the current employees of the employer are the biggest losers. If money has to be spent on fines etc then there is less money available to upgrade the fleet or to pay higher wages.
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Clark 6 (or pehaps more aptly clown 6 / clown's daddy)
It is rather ironic or perhaps a bad omen that I read "The Verdict" the same day I read an article about the Air Adventures crash.
The underlining theme from both events is that there are certain indivuals that simply do not have the attributes to operate an aircraft safety!
Evidence given by several of the former employee's workmates spoke of an inconsistent / arrogance attitude towards his flying.
Unfortunately it appears the employment court has focused on the method of the individual's dismissal and not the reason behind it.
Yes the individual was employed by the opposition - for political purposes alone - now that these purposes has been served and it dawns upon the new employer just how dangerous this individual is he will find himself without work. This time there will be no contract/employment law to hide behnd. Let's hope it happens before we have another "Air Adventures crash"
There is no winner out of this debacle - the former employer can rest easy that they have done their best to remove this threat. Unfortunately the loser is still the NZ public as they are unknowingly / undeservedly being exposed to this clown!!
Let this "forum" speak the truth !!
Over and out
sex
It is rather ironic or perhaps a bad omen that I read "The Verdict" the same day I read an article about the Air Adventures crash.
The underlining theme from both events is that there are certain indivuals that simply do not have the attributes to operate an aircraft safety!
Evidence given by several of the former employee's workmates spoke of an inconsistent / arrogance attitude towards his flying.
Unfortunately it appears the employment court has focused on the method of the individual's dismissal and not the reason behind it.
Yes the individual was employed by the opposition - for political purposes alone - now that these purposes has been served and it dawns upon the new employer just how dangerous this individual is he will find himself without work. This time there will be no contract/employment law to hide behnd. Let's hope it happens before we have another "Air Adventures crash"
There is no winner out of this debacle - the former employer can rest easy that they have done their best to remove this threat. Unfortunately the loser is still the NZ public as they are unknowingly / undeservedly being exposed to this clown!!
Let this "forum" speak the truth !!
Over and out
sex