Cost of A320 and B737 rating
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Cost of A320 and B737 rating
G'day All,
Just wondering what the damage is for a 737 endorsement with VB and the cost of a A320 endorsement with Jetstar?
I am after actual figures from people who have done it recently, not speculation.
Also, is it true the Jetstar are paying for the endo upfront and then deducting from your pre-tax pay over 12 months?
Thanks.
EO
Just wondering what the damage is for a 737 endorsement with VB and the cost of a A320 endorsement with Jetstar?
I am after actual figures from people who have done it recently, not speculation.
Also, is it true the Jetstar are paying for the endo upfront and then deducting from your pre-tax pay over 12 months?
Thanks.
EO
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A 737 endorsement at the Ansett Sim Centre (still running):
15 working days groundschool, (includes 12 hours Fixed-base Sim).
2 x 4-hour Fixed-base sessions, followed by 9 x 4-hour Full Flight sessions.
Costs are:
Single pilot - Aus$ 26,000:00
Two pilot - Aus$ 46,000:00 (split between two).
Training is to the Boeing manual, and all manuals are supplied as part of the course.
Contact Jennifer Sheridan, Flt. Sim. Centre, 61-3-93738005.
15 working days groundschool, (includes 12 hours Fixed-base Sim).
2 x 4-hour Fixed-base sessions, followed by 9 x 4-hour Full Flight sessions.
Costs are:
Single pilot - Aus$ 26,000:00
Two pilot - Aus$ 46,000:00 (split between two).
Training is to the Boeing manual, and all manuals are supplied as part of the course.
Contact Jennifer Sheridan, Flt. Sim. Centre, 61-3-93738005.
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The A320 endorsement with J* will cost you around $32k, and yes it will be deducted from your pay as salary sacrifice,a much better arangement.
Also I think you would be doing yourself a favour going to J* rather that VB (if you get the choice) as the future of VB is a little shakey were as at least with J* it is still planning massive expansion and your relative seniority would benefit greatly.
Not to mention with the A320 endorsement you will get work anywhere in the world.
Also I think you would be doing yourself a favour going to J* rather that VB (if you get the choice) as the future of VB is a little shakey were as at least with J* it is still planning massive expansion and your relative seniority would benefit greatly.
Not to mention with the A320 endorsement you will get work anywhere in the world.
You can now obtain a JAR approved B737 type rating in the States for 14,400 euros (AUD$23,750), including accommodation, breakfast and transfers from hotel to training centre. Add about 5,000 euros for circuits in the aircraft if you need it to validate a JAR licence, which I don't think is required for a conversion to a CASA licence.
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DD,
maybe not shakey, but as already put, relative seniority in the future can be the difference... if virgin is going to 'consolidate' under corrigen and j* is planning an expansion, if you get into J* now, you stand a better chance of a faster command... perhaps similiar timeframes of the first few years of vb?? but then again! who knows!!! cheers fellas
maybe not shakey, but as already put, relative seniority in the future can be the difference... if virgin is going to 'consolidate' under corrigen and j* is planning an expansion, if you get into J* now, you stand a better chance of a faster command... perhaps similiar timeframes of the first few years of vb?? but then again! who knows!!! cheers fellas
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Well DD,
Would you call it solid and expansive, I don't think so, as most of VB captains are relatively young, you would be waiting 15 to 20 yrs for a command, particularly if there is any contraction. Which is quite the opposite that is happening at Jet*.
I would imagine that any junior VB FO would be doing them self a favour jumping ship.
Would you call it solid and expansive, I don't think so, as most of VB captains are relatively young, you would be waiting 15 to 20 yrs for a command, particularly if there is any contraction. Which is quite the opposite that is happening at Jet*.
I would imagine that any junior VB FO would be doing them self a favour jumping ship.
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Shakey may be a bit harsh DhD, but the stock exchange does'nt exactly point to them going gangbusters.
Anyway, all you blokes are mad with talk of 73 and 320 endorsements when the bargain of the century can be had at NJS.....only 30k to fly some of the most antiquated clapped out heaps of junk in the jet universe, and then if you are really really good, you can pay another 15k to upgrade onto a decent jet......why would'nt ya ??
Anyway, all you blokes are mad with talk of 73 and 320 endorsements when the bargain of the century can be had at NJS.....only 30k to fly some of the most antiquated clapped out heaps of junk in the jet universe, and then if you are really really good, you can pay another 15k to upgrade onto a decent jet......why would'nt ya ??
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This jet talk is way beyond me but 15 years in the job before a command seems like a ridiculously long time to serve an apprenticeship in the right hand seat. Imean, if you ain't got it sorted after 10 years, would you really wait another 5 to make sure you understand what's required.
Why would anyone even want to sit in the same job for 15 years when there is so much else going on out there?
Can one of you ask that in your upcoming QF interviews and post the response for me please?
Ta muchly
Gin
Why would anyone even want to sit in the same job for 15 years when there is so much else going on out there?
Can one of you ask that in your upcoming QF interviews and post the response for me please?
Ta muchly
Gin
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Career FO's certainly aren't common anymore, but I know a few "Career FO's" that could not make command until the '89 debacle, including "Dyslexic at Canberra", but only after swearing their allegiance to the Dark Side. 
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Nice one 2Far, but you missed the other one..... "eluscidate".
Too late, I'm sober now and erased it as worse than my usual drivel.
Had I not been smashed, my post would've been something like:
Are you referring to the personal financial cost or the cost to the industry as a whole of individuals caving in and paying for their own training?
I'm sure Gardenbug will know what I was trying to say...
Too late, I'm sober now and erased it as worse than my usual drivel.
Had I not been smashed, my post would've been something like:
Are you referring to the personal financial cost or the cost to the industry as a whole of individuals caving in and paying for their own training?
I'm sure Gardenbug will know what I was trying to say...
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
The demand for pilots is starting to increase at an increased rate.
Three different airlines in Japan have recently employed foreign pilots who are not type rated, but who will be paying for the training for them.
Read this thread Retired 60 + year olds recalled to airline to see further evidence of how the impending severe shortage is being addressed.
It seems that Australia's airlines are going to be the training grounds and suppliers of pilots to overseas operators, unless the fiscal attaraction is improved.
Three different airlines in Japan have recently employed foreign pilots who are not type rated, but who will be paying for the training for them.
Read this thread Retired 60 + year olds recalled to airline to see further evidence of how the impending severe shortage is being addressed.
It seems that Australia's airlines are going to be the training grounds and suppliers of pilots to overseas operators, unless the fiscal attaraction is improved.
Kaptin M
Too true!!
The days of allegiance to the one carrier is long gone. Th e future is probably going to see a huge increase in contract work, and the likes of QF are going to have to realise that the money saving antics of their management is only going to shoot them in the foot in the long run. Trying to map out the future like they r now will only result in a high turnover of pilots who leave for foreign shores!
Too true!!
The days of allegiance to the one carrier is long gone. Th e future is probably going to see a huge increase in contract work, and the likes of QF are going to have to realise that the money saving antics of their management is only going to shoot them in the foot in the long run. Trying to map out the future like they r now will only result in a high turnover of pilots who leave for foreign shores!
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
I believe allegiance to the company still exists within the majority of most employees, mmmbop, however if a dog is kicked and abused often and long enough (then) one day the dog will bight back and/or move on to where it's better treated.
Yes, contract work is going to boom as carriers that previously had sufficient local pilots to meet their needs are now finding their sources have dried up, in addition to fleet expansions creating extra demand.
It will be the airlines that have sufficient pilots to meet their crewing requirements that are going to be the ones that prosper.
The airline I'm with now has indicated that it will probably need to cancel 8 flights next month simply because they don't have the pilots to crew the schedules.
Twelve months ago it wasn't a problem, but since then 8 or so of the "abused dogs" have resigned.
Yes, contract work is going to boom as carriers that previously had sufficient local pilots to meet their needs are now finding their sources have dried up, in addition to fleet expansions creating extra demand.
It will be the airlines that have sufficient pilots to meet their crewing requirements that are going to be the ones that prosper.
The airline I'm with now has indicated that it will probably need to cancel 8 flights next month simply because they don't have the pilots to crew the schedules.
Twelve months ago it wasn't a problem, but since then 8 or so of the "abused dogs" have resigned.