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Old 7th May 2005, 10:45
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Hypothetically speaking, say if I converted an Australian CPL to a FAA CPL and wanted to work in the US, what would be some of the ways I could obtain a US working visa? Would it be possible if I was offered a job that I could be offered a working visa. Just curious, thanks.
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Old 7th May 2005, 14:50
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You need the right to work in the US first before someone would offer you a job. It doesnt hurt though to sniff around and see what's on the market then get your visa if you think you found something.

It can be a catch22 situation sometimes. Visa needs job offer first then job offer needs visa first.


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Forget it.
They will not issue a visa for you as a pilot, if you were in a profession that they have shortages in eg nursing then maybe. Unless you happen to know someone that will sponsor you and can prove that they could not find a suitable American to do the job then your best bet is find some homely girl, whisper some sweet nothings in her ear and get married.
If you were to do your flight training there then you can get a J1 visa and at least work there for 2 years.
Good luck.
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J-1 visa

Thanks for the replies guys. Whats involved in getting a J-1 visa and does it allow u to work for income?. I was thinking of getting a CFI rating over there and working as an instructor.

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Old 8th May 2005, 22:40
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Trav, the J-1 Visa does allow you to work for an income.

Contact the US Consulate in your state capital for the lottery system for US work visas. I know two pilots who got here on the lottery system, they work charter in So-Cal.
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Perhaps the new E3 visa with Aussies working in the US will help?
Not sure if it’s come into effect yet, however it seems to be on the news of late. They mention 3 year re-newable vias.
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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=3380
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I just read about these new E-3 visas, it sounds promising. Does anyone know if I would be issued one for a job as a pilot?. If and when I did go over I would also have a B.Bus degree and possibly some post graduate study and of course a CPL/IR, would this help me out?
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Old 13th May 2005, 00:28
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Actually now that you've mentioned it. It is a requirement to have a degree so you can stay there to work. Of course as a pilot.

It depends how many hours you've got but the opportunities for pilots are in abundance. Just dont be picky.


Good luck

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Old 20th May 2005, 23:51
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Delta Six, what sort of oppurtunities are available over there?. If and when I do go over id say I have anywhere between 250-1000 hours as I plan to work in Aus first (hopefully anyway). Also can anyone recommend any good flight schools to convert my licence and to possibly do a CFI rating?.

Thanks guys, Trav
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Trav,

The last time I was there, the opportunities are scattered across the continental U.S. I found some in the Great Lakes area, California, Mexico, Dallas Fort Worth, Florida and so on. It's a very populated country from east to west, north to south. There are airlines which are like taxis, just waiting there on the tarmac for paxs to board without prior reservations. I know that American Eagle, the regional arm of American Airlines has vacancies in their turbo props. You will just have to decide where you want to stay first then have a look at the vacancies, or have it the other way around. Up to you mate. I can't identify all of them but if you go, then I'm sure you'll find something. Weather wise, it might not be the best at times if not most...

Get your working visa now while the flood gates are still wide open for aussies - it was just on the radio the other day. Just bear the torture of trying to pass their ATP Part 141 and 135 exams. Piss easy anyway. Weet bix type, you know what I mean ?

I know of a few aussies there who are 767 drivers based at DFW and O'Hare. You can tell because the tower would pause awhile and think what he just said. ......... then he goes "Sir, could you just repeat that last transmission"


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Deltasix, I did what you're proposing to do some years ago. Unless you have the right to work I wouldn't try. It's probably just as easy to get into Qantas as it would be to try to convert over. Unless you have ATP flight minimums you're looking at a lot of money to convert your license. I spent US5-6k. ATP mins are 1500 TT 100 night and 75 IF of which 50 is actual if (ie not sim time) Jobs aren't as plentiful as everyone in oz thinks either. It's just there's more of them, not necessarily more per capita. Companies are still getting 1500 resumes/month for 17k jobs flying B1900 or Saab340. Not that good. but if decide to give it a shot pm me.
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druglord - that's what I said to Trav initially, he or she must have the right to work in the US before he can get any job.
On the otherhand, the US government has actually open the gates to aussies who wants to come to the US and work there of course with some conditions ( e.g. a Uni degree ). They were giving aussies the right to obtain greencards.

I didn't recommend to anyone who doesn't have the ATP minimums to go there unless they have the money to convert it.

All I was answering was the opportunities that Trav was enquiring about. And I did find quite a few when I was there sometime last year. With the impending bankruptcy of United and struggling AA, the smaller ones were picking up - as per someone that I spoke to in the industry. If it wasn't for sickness in the family, I would've taken the one offered to me.

I think Trav wants to build up the hours here and then go there as what I can gather in his post.

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Old 22nd May 2005, 10:51
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Delta Six, your pretty much on the money. It would be ideal to go over with the ATP mins, both financially in terms of the licence conversion and also I would would think that it would be eaiser to secure a job(correct me if im wrong). Getting the working visa wont be easy I know but hopefully it'll work out in the end.

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Old 22nd May 2005, 11:33
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I disagree.
If you could get the working visa, regardless of your hours I would go there. If you were a low time pilot and providing you chose the right school or job (eg traffic or banner towing) you could still build your hours to ATP mins.
The commutors and fractionals are hiring. But as I said the key is getting that darn visa.
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Old 22nd May 2005, 19:33
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The USA is not the Aviation world of milk and honey.

As Druglord wrote; 1900 & 340 jobs on 17k p.a.

You can not live on that in Seattle or Boston etc. Some FOs are said to work bars off duty to survive...
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Old 22nd May 2005, 21:39
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deltasix,
whoops my bad, i thought you were the one that originally posted... my reply was meant for trav. but yes there are jobs, i haven't had to look for one for a while so I guess I'm not sure what the competition is like. our company hires low-time, ie 1500 and 500 multi, but getting the interview is the big hurdle.
best of luck with the endevours.
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How about the bigger airlines? Someone was telling me the other day they thought that they wanted you to have in the range of 5 years of living in the US first? Is this a fallacy?

Anyone know what sort of hours the larger airlines hire with (as opposed to what they advertise for a minimum. Specifically Continental?

I was thinking of the possibility of moving there in around 4 years time, I'd have 3300 hours total, 3000 multi turbine, just over 1000 captain time.

Thoughts?
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Old 30th Jun 2005, 11:27
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Hi everyone, after doing some research on this I would like to ask how I would go about getting an E-3 (employment) visa, as it will be neccesary unless I win a greencard (lottery system). I assume there would be some sort of form for myself and an employer to fill out, so if anyone can help me out it would be much appreciated,

Thanks.
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Old 30th Jun 2005, 13:16
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E-3 not applicable for pilots

E-3 visas are for skilled profesionals with university educations and for specific fields only
for example (the usual)
Doctor
Nurse
Teacher
etc
etc

no luck for pilots though they are not listed and therefore no eligable.

My tip is shack up with a Yank. Back in flying school one of our instructors told us that daily with a yank or a pom. not a bad idea thinking back. too late for me now though im afraid.
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