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Old 17th Feb 2005, 22:36
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Just had the call from Bearnie,

interviews are on the 28 Feb, 1,2 March and then the ground course is on the 14 of March.
Just if anyone was curious... 1300 TT, 670 multi and 200 IFR.
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Old 18th Feb 2005, 08:32
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Some have been called at short notice for this round, but I know of a few round the 1500TT 150 multi..........
I hope you eagle aero club boys stand up for yourselfs when it comes down to your contracts being reviewed, have heard that staff travel has been pulled to put the "wind" up when there was talk of a mass DCM.
Air NSN and Cook have had too go through the same shizza to get their contracts and I'm shure the rest of the industry would support the cause .....................
Origin are running a J41 course in march if they can get anyone to do it, not shure why when they are sending A/C back, might be doing the Origin.... ground course now start two years later!!
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Old 20th Feb 2005, 22:30
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I got an email off Eagle as well....Had a nice chat with Bernie..then politely (but really I was wanting to say F@&K OFF!..for all the dont call us as you dont "FIT" our profile) informed her that I already have accepted an offer on jets
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Old 21st Feb 2005, 07:56
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I imagine Bernie is getting a few polite 'no thank you's', as I said, they need to accept a few simple truths and start calling lower time pilots.
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Old 21st Feb 2005, 08:23
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Overhead in the Wellington terminal the other day, at FUEL coffee....

B1900 Pilot: "Well, at least we're flying the most sophisticated and best performing turboprop in the country..."

Tell me, have you Eagle guys got your heads stuck so far up your date that you're actually BREATHING the bull**** now?
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Old 21st Feb 2005, 10:29
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Bombay...that matches my impression of all the Eagle drivers I have met..and Ive met a few over the years (I'm sure the VAST MAJORITY that I havent met sincerely are great people as well )...I tried chatting to an Eagle Driver in Whakatane about a year ago.....explaining that I used to fly the Bandit..(Ex Eagle equip)..and that as I was flying a BE350 around Europe at the time..would he mind if I had a sneaky peek upfront..while they turned around.....Never has anyone been so rude and offensive in aviation to me as this guy was...he basically called me a liar..and told me where to go...nice guy NOT!

Oh and he was about 25..Dark hair...first name A%&*"*r..probably a graduate of the "My **** doesn't stink as I fly the most sophisticated T/P in NZ..and Ive got some Bars on my weedy shoulders"

Not that I'm bitter....

Sorry all you normal nice Eagle Drivers....you have a few amongst your ranks who are giving you a bad name.

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Old 21st Feb 2005, 15:50
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Sophisticated?
Thats the good thing about the 1900, its as sophisticated as a 172 and as easy to fly.
Just goes a bit better!!!!
I think we all like to think the aircraft we fly are the best until we go onto another job.
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Old 21st Feb 2005, 20:03
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Hold on guys......

I've always found it pretty funny too when pilots (Eagle or otherwise) talk up their aircraft. It's just an aircraft (agreed, it's small, full of archaic technology, and basically a light twin), most Eagle pilots don't give a toss about who's aircraft is better. This whole 'talking up the beech' thing is a form of short mans syndrome - some Eagle pilots are so used to being the little fish that they get defensive, particularly the ex bandit pilots, some of whom seem to feel vindicated now they're flying the big bad beechcraft. You only have to look at the rate of attrition to see what they really think of the job.

I remember an Eagle pilot telling me about how he had 'stumped' a 737-300 pilot when being given the tour. '...I see you've got TCAS and GPWS, well in the beech we have TCAS II and EGPWS...' apparently the 73 driver had the good grace not to point out the 22K jet engines, and 142 seats on his aircraft. It's this sort of thing that gives Eagle pilots a bad name (perhaps rightly so), but most of us are as disgusted as everyone else.

Haughtney - I find that surprising, he is one of the good buggers. Maybe you miss-understood him, or caught him on a bad day? (those turnarounds are pretty tight). I don't think it's appropriate for you to identify a pilot like that in any case (Half of New Zealand aviation will know exactly who you're talking about) - I suggest an edit may be in order.
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Old 21st Feb 2005, 20:20
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Every company has fulas that give it both a good and bad reputation. Unfortunatley Eagle has a couple of strokers floating round that think the 1900 is gods gift, and that this makes them and their machine superior to the other Turbo prop operators in NZ..... but hey this doesnt mean all the Eagle pilots are like that! And it is unfair to generalise that they are! For a lot of them, flying is something they enjoy, but it is not how they get their kicks! Whether a pilot flys a beech, saab, ATR or dash, at the end of the day its just flying. A lot of pilots at Eagle are more concerned with planning a few beers and trying to pull hot chicks, than what plane they are flying.....just like any other normal pilots! Its just a shame some people have given the company a bad reputation, As it is not always a true reflection of the guys (Majority) that work their.
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Old 21st Feb 2005, 20:39
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A few beers and hot chicks aye? Sounds like a plan!
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Old 21st Feb 2005, 23:53
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Thump & Go,

have thought about a visit to the bigwigs. Who's the person to see? I'm waiting to start at Origin but job security could be better flying under the koru banner i feel.
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Old 22nd Feb 2005, 01:26
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And whats wrong with the Bandit?Best flying Ive ever done was in a Bandit(2000hrs).Much more fun than the 185Tonnes I now fly.
Most frequent instrument I scan now is the a/c clock(oh only 10hrs to go!)Enjoy what you've got while you still can!
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Old 22nd Feb 2005, 04:28
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And whats wrong with the Bandit?
Nothing at all, that's exactly my point - if people would stop to smell the roses rather than trying to keep up with the Jones's we wouldn't be having this debate. As SkySurfin said, flying is fun and a good way to earn a crust, but there's more to life.
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Old 22nd Feb 2005, 10:29
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VH-VIN,

Please check you PM, I've sent you a message regarding the 1900.
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Old 22nd Feb 2005, 19:29
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I don't know where the notion that the Beech is the most advanced tprop in NZ came from. No autopilot, archaic flight director, crappy GPS that takes half an hour to enter anything into and a very GA approach to the instrument layout. having said that, I agree it has arguably the best performance in NZ........................I still prefer my cup of coffee every sector

Oh, and my much larger pay packet!

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Old 22nd Feb 2005, 21:04
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Cloud in response..point taken, and noted...as for the aforementioned being a good bloke?..well mayby he needed a little lesson in interpersonal skills on that day, as I said this person was impressive with his offhanded manner...his sour demeanour..and general arrogance. As for it being unfair to post on here....well lifes like that sometimes, had he been a little more rude, he may well have ended up nursing a fat lip.

The Bandit...great aeroplane!.....specially loved the fuel totaliser...oh and the lock wired gear collapse switch!



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Old 23rd Feb 2005, 00:21
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Max rate..........maybe you would be kind enough to donate to the EAG pilot I can't afford to get on the piss fund. I can assure you your donation will be greatly appreciated.


Everybody else

Sure EAG has a few plonkers but like i have said in the past so does every other airline in NZ. I could point fingers at many people from other airlines (and my own occasionally) that i have said hello to only to get snobbed! Unfortunatley THATS LIFE.

Don't stress about what others do to you or you hear them saying and you will live longer.

splat Happy flying
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Old 23rd Feb 2005, 00:41
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maybe you would be kind enough to donate to the EAG pilot I can't afford to get on the piss fund.
Priorities mate, it's the 'EAG pilot I can't afford to pay my rent cause I spent my limited cash on piss fund'
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Old 23rd Feb 2005, 16:44
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Flying ginge check your PM's
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Old 23rd Feb 2005, 20:16
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Good luck to all of those people for the upcoming interviews. As has been said many times before - Just be yourself and if you don't know something just say so. They know more than you do.

As they say on the interview - we are a training airline and guys/gals do go on to bigger and brighter things. If you can give us a couple of years then that would be fantastic.

Well its true. If you think that this is another step along your flying career path then make the most of it. Another notch in your belt, another bit of information in the learning curve. You will appreciate it, maybe not now but certainly in the future.

It's almost like the story about the 152 pilot looking up at the 402 pilot and him looking up at the 737 pilot who looked up at concorde who looked up at the space shuttle who looked down at the 152 saying"Now THAT'S flying!"


Good luck guys/gals.
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