Turbo prop job with Jet time
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Turbo prop job with Jet time
Just wondering if having jet time would be a hinderance to someone wanting to move back to Turbo Props?
I know here in the UK its no big deal, but whats the situation in Australia with this scenario? Best not to mention it or would it be an asset?
I know here in the UK its no big deal, but whats the situation in Australia with this scenario? Best not to mention it or would it be an asset?
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Why not ?
Meeb,
Our Chief Pilot was a C&T captain for the B777 when he moved back to turbo-props..... I would be very surprised if they look at it as a hindrance........ I guess it depends on the company.
But, I'll let the others speak for their companies.
DeltaSix
Our Chief Pilot was a C&T captain for the B777 when he moved back to turbo-props..... I would be very surprised if they look at it as a hindrance........ I guess it depends on the company.
But, I'll let the others speak for their companies.
DeltaSix
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Hey Meeb, you wanna go back to the MOB? 
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Meeb, sorry this doesn't really answer your query, but .....
A mate who lost his job when British World went t1ts up in 2001 landed a Super King Air spot in Scotland not long after. He thought that the UK turboprop operators weren't picking up jet pilots as it was thought they'd be straight out the door as soon as 737 LCCs started recruiting....
Perhaps it's changed in the 3 years since....
A mate who lost his job when British World went t1ts up in 2001 landed a Super King Air spot in Scotland not long after. He thought that the UK turboprop operators weren't picking up jet pilots as it was thought they'd be straight out the door as soon as 737 LCCs started recruiting....
Perhaps it's changed in the 3 years since....
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Reddo... no way... 
I would like to sound out the situation in Australia, like I said I know the situation in the UK.
In Oz, would someone with a 737 rating be knocked back for a Metro job...
PS Thanks for the replies so far... any more...?
I would like to sound out the situation in Australia, like I said I know the situation in the UK.
In Oz, would someone with a 737 rating be knocked back for a Metro job...
PS Thanks for the replies so far... any more...?
As there are too many pilots here, getting a turboprop job in Oz is the equivalent of getting a jet job overseas in terms of qualifications and experience required. Though not in salary paid
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Jet to turboprop
Gidday Meeb,
not sure why you would want to go from 737 to turboprop (why anyone would for that matter!
) but I would think you would be most welcome if you could demonstrate your willingness to do the job.
I know my company has taken at least one heavy jet qualified pilot. That person is now flying with a Queensland Regional and was not with the company very long - that may affect your employment chances somewhat possibly, but as far as having jet experience, I think that would be a big plus.
Cheers,
TJ
not sure why you would want to go from 737 to turboprop (why anyone would for that matter!
) but I would think you would be most welcome if you could demonstrate your willingness to do the job.I know my company has taken at least one heavy jet qualified pilot. That person is now flying with a Queensland Regional and was not with the company very long - that may affect your employment chances somewhat possibly, but as far as having jet experience, I think that would be a big plus.
Cheers,
TJ
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Huh?
There are plenty of blokes / sheilas you have contributed to the Australian aviation industry by doing their training here in Australia, are residents and paying taxes. The same pilots are now currently sweating their rings out in Maningrida flying a 30 year old C206 for a shot at a metro R/H seat and we are inviting our good Scottish colleague to come on down with his jet time?
There are plenty of blokes / sheilas you have contributed to the Australian aviation industry by doing their training here in Australia, are residents and paying taxes. The same pilots are now currently sweating their rings out in Maningrida flying a 30 year old C206 for a shot at a metro R/H seat and we are inviting our good Scottish colleague to come on down with his jet time?
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Our Scottish friend used to work in Australia teaching said pilots how to fly. He's got right of abode in Australia so he has every right to a position in Australia.
He's never passed judgement on Aussies flying in the UK.
He's never passed judgement on Aussies flying in the UK.
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And if you send home all the Poms, Kiwis and assorted others, there'd probably be enough jobs for the Ozmates to come home to .............................
Sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!!
The foreign pilots in Oz are working legally, as are the Ozmates in Europe and other places. If the locals on either side of the fence have a beef about it, talk to your elected representatives and get the immigration laws in your respective countries changed!
Until then it's simply bs.
Snooze
(My apologies to the Kiwis, who haven't yet bought into this one)
Sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!!
The foreign pilots in Oz are working legally, as are the Ozmates in Europe and other places. If the locals on either side of the fence have a beef about it, talk to your elected representatives and get the immigration laws in your respective countries changed!
Until then it's simply bs.
Snooze
(My apologies to the Kiwis, who haven't yet bought into this one)
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Getting back to the original question...
Speaking to a couple of fellas who have returned to jet flying after a couple of years or more in GA, there is a common thread.
When these guys were looking for jobs and were happy to accept any regular flying, potential employers were wary of the possibility that these possessor's of the magic 'jet time' would be off at the first opportunity.
Or perceived to no longer be interested in 'doing what needs to be done' to get the job done
This made it frustrating for the fellows concerned, most of whom thought the next jet opportunity would be a long time away, perhaps never, and just wanted a job flying aeroplanes, please!
Classic situation in oz GA. You NEVER have the right experience matrix! "Not enough total time/No twin time/Too much single engine time/No instructional experience/Too much instructional experience....
It is more of a comment on the poor quality of management in oz GA. Most aviation 'businesspeople' in oz GA would have a hard time holding similar positions in other businesses, imho.
Anyone considering joining our good selves in australian aviation should be ready to deal with self important dunderheads that have a variety of implicit theories on what makes a good pilot employee, none of them founded on anything more than bar talk, jealousy, and basic prejudice! Just remember to smile politely at the interview
Speaking to a couple of fellas who have returned to jet flying after a couple of years or more in GA, there is a common thread.
When these guys were looking for jobs and were happy to accept any regular flying, potential employers were wary of the possibility that these possessor's of the magic 'jet time' would be off at the first opportunity.
Or perceived to no longer be interested in 'doing what needs to be done' to get the job done
This made it frustrating for the fellows concerned, most of whom thought the next jet opportunity would be a long time away, perhaps never, and just wanted a job flying aeroplanes, please!
Classic situation in oz GA. You NEVER have the right experience matrix! "Not enough total time/No twin time/Too much single engine time/No instructional experience/Too much instructional experience....
It is more of a comment on the poor quality of management in oz GA. Most aviation 'businesspeople' in oz GA would have a hard time holding similar positions in other businesses, imho.
Anyone considering joining our good selves in australian aviation should be ready to deal with self important dunderheads that have a variety of implicit theories on what makes a good pilot employee, none of them founded on anything more than bar talk, jealousy, and basic prejudice! Just remember to smile politely at the interview
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"Our Scottish friend used to work in Australia teaching said pilots how to fly. He's got right of abode in Australia so he has every right to a position in Australia.
He's never passed judgement on Aussies flying in the UK."
Well maybe he should have? Then he might not be looking 'down under' for turboprop time.
Because he has right of abode, does he have "every right" to take a position from an Australian citizen? I don't think he should have.
He was "in Australia teaching said pilots how to fly", so?
If he was here doing it for charity then I applaud him.
When we have a skilled pilot shortage in Australia, then let's give our good Scottish colleague all the help in the world to get a job here.
Rather than trying to get your M.P. to change the immigration laws, let your manager/recruitment guru/chief pilot know that a local pilot would be better for that metro job!
He's never passed judgement on Aussies flying in the UK."
Well maybe he should have? Then he might not be looking 'down under' for turboprop time.
Because he has right of abode, does he have "every right" to take a position from an Australian citizen? I don't think he should have.
He was "in Australia teaching said pilots how to fly", so?
If he was here doing it for charity then I applaud him.
When we have a skilled pilot shortage in Australia, then let's give our good Scottish colleague all the help in the world to get a job here.
Rather than trying to get your M.P. to change the immigration laws, let your manager/recruitment guru/chief pilot know that a local pilot would be better for that metro job!
ROKAPE