Flight Crew Photo ID Fees Coming
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Flight Crew Photo ID Fees Coming
From March a fee will be imposed on the issue of Flight Crew Photo ID by CASA (some of this cost may be for the other parts of the check with ASIO, AFP and DIMIA). The cost is currently funded by government as part of their anti-terrorist spending to show they are doing something.
While it is currently free, CASA are not requiring (or encouraging) other than first issue licence holders to apply even though the legislation requires all applicants for a licence to have a Photo ID (and checks).
You should apply for your Photo ID now on form 639 at http://www.casa.gov.au/manuals/regulate/fcl/form639.pdf and get it certiied and send it in ASAP.
There is no point having to pay between $100 and $200 while it is currently free (ASIC is the same checks and costs $200).
Pass this on to everyone you know that has a licence, even if not current. Anyone wanting to fly will need to have one. Prospective Students should also apply well in advance so it does not slow down their training progress as you can't get a Student Licence (and therefore go solo) until you have a Photo ID.
Apply for the Photo ID now while it is still free.
And it isn't effective as people from overseas, who are presumabley the risk group, can still get to fly without checks or a photo ID. Where's the logic in that and who came up with it? Oh, CASA, another SNAFU.
http://www.casa.gov.au/manuals/regulate/fcl/form639.pdf
While it is currently free, CASA are not requiring (or encouraging) other than first issue licence holders to apply even though the legislation requires all applicants for a licence to have a Photo ID (and checks).
You should apply for your Photo ID now on form 639 at http://www.casa.gov.au/manuals/regulate/fcl/form639.pdf and get it certiied and send it in ASAP.
There is no point having to pay between $100 and $200 while it is currently free (ASIC is the same checks and costs $200).
Pass this on to everyone you know that has a licence, even if not current. Anyone wanting to fly will need to have one. Prospective Students should also apply well in advance so it does not slow down their training progress as you can't get a Student Licence (and therefore go solo) until you have a Photo ID.
Apply for the Photo ID now while it is still free.
And it isn't effective as people from overseas, who are presumabley the risk group, can still get to fly without checks or a photo ID. Where's the logic in that and who came up with it? Oh, CASA, another SNAFU.
http://www.casa.gov.au/manuals/regulate/fcl/form639.pdf
Just had a squiz at that form. Interesting. Towards the bottom it says that CASA collects information in accordance with various aviaton rules & regs...
...however some of the information collected seems to go way beyond what I recall is ever required within any of the quoted rules & regs.
...however some of the information collected seems to go way beyond what I recall is ever required within any of the quoted rules & regs.
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By all means go ahead and get this done sooner rather than later.
The people who can sign the dcuments are CFIs, DAMES and CASA delegates.
I doubt many people would think it was OK to wander into the doctor's surgery and expect them to cancel booked patients to do this. So consider folks what you are asking when you wander into the flying school and expect the CFI to drop everything with no notice and spend half an hour on this. We don't recieve any kind of compensation from CASA or the govt for this loss of working time.
So, please go to the local CASA office, they are paid to do this stuff!
The people who can sign the dcuments are CFIs, DAMES and CASA delegates.
I doubt many people would think it was OK to wander into the doctor's surgery and expect them to cancel booked patients to do this. So consider folks what you are asking when you wander into the flying school and expect the CFI to drop everything with no notice and spend half an hour on this. We don't recieve any kind of compensation from CASA or the govt for this loss of working time.
So, please go to the local CASA office, they are paid to do this stuff!
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
Thanks for the "heads up", Cockpit Junkie.
CFI, you state "We don't recieve any kind of compensation from CASA or the govt for this loss of working time.", but has CASA specifically prohibited you from charging the applicants for providing this service?
BTW, I think you'd get it done in a lot less than 30 mins - probably closer to 10 or 15...........money for jam in that case!!
CFI, you state "We don't recieve any kind of compensation from CASA or the govt for this loss of working time.", but has CASA specifically prohibited you from charging the applicants for providing this service?
BTW, I think you'd get it done in a lot less than 30 mins - probably closer to 10 or 15...........money for jam in that case!!
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Stupid question here but I have seen bizarre thing with govt forms. Should I apply for:
Flight Crew Photo ID or
CPL+PPL+SPL and Radio (already held)
or also tick the box for ATPL (figuring an overwhelmed clerk might send that out) not that I need or particularly want - but hey if the arseholes want to hassle.
Flight Crew Photo ID or
CPL+PPL+SPL and Radio (already held)
or also tick the box for ATPL (figuring an overwhelmed clerk might send that out) not that I need or particularly want - but hey if the arseholes want to hassle.
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Dont bother applying for one....
Guys, dont even bother applying for one before the fee is introduced. (whenever that may be 
)
I applied in November last year and am still waiting for one. Today I rang CASA to enquire on its whereabouts and was told it is in Canberra in a big pile of the same. They are all being held over until the amount of the fee can be determined, then the kind CASA people will ring everyone and ask for the money prior to processing it.
Not happy Jan!!!!
)I applied in November last year and am still waiting for one. Today I rang CASA to enquire on its whereabouts and was told it is in Canberra in a big pile of the same. They are all being held over until the amount of the fee can be determined, then the kind CASA people will ring everyone and ask for the money prior to processing it.
Not happy Jan!!!!
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When I applied for my Photo ID Licence a week or so ago, my friendly licencing clerk advised that I was about the third pilot in a week to mention the suposed fee introduction.
Friendly Licencing Clerk advised that she had enquired with HO in Cantberra and had been advised that "no decision re fees has been made".
I expect to pay nothing for my new, new, new licence.
Friendly Licencing Clerk advised that she had enquired with HO in Cantberra and had been advised that "no decision re fees has been made".
I expect to pay nothing for my new, new, new licence.
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Just to clarify...
NEW licence issues ( inital SPL) are being given the photo ID's at no charge at the moment, if its your FIRST EVER LICENCE.
EXISTING Licence holders who have held (in my case ATPL upgrade) PPL, CPL or ATPL for a few years are NOT being issued the photo ID's. We are going to have to pay for them in the future when the fee is determined.
Happy days eh? NOT!!!
NEW licence issues ( inital SPL) are being given the photo ID's at no charge at the moment, if its your FIRST EVER LICENCE.
EXISTING Licence holders who have held (in my case ATPL upgrade) PPL, CPL or ATPL for a few years are NOT being issued the photo ID's. We are going to have to pay for them in the future when the fee is determined.
Happy days eh? NOT!!!
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Took CJ's advise and submitted mine in mid JAN at YMMB.
Recieved my Photo licence and Photo Flight crew ID today.
The officer who sited, stamped and signed the photos and copies of original documents said that no decision on fees has been made yet and that background checks were not being made as yet.
Maybe they will come after me for a fee when they decide to do the background checks.
Recieved my Photo licence and Photo Flight crew ID today.
The officer who sited, stamped and signed the photos and copies of original documents said that no decision on fees has been made yet and that background checks were not being made as yet.
Maybe they will come after me for a fee when they decide to do the background checks.
When you live....
Zhaadum - not quite true - I went to MB CASA office in January and was given a form but fairly strongly encouraged not to bother filling it in - however they did say they would process it if I did.
But, things being as they are, I didn't! Now back in London and regretting not chasing it up. Does anyone know of anyone UK based who fits the description? There's not a CASA bod at Australia House by any chance? Or even an Aussie qualified DAME around?
B*llocks!
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(edited 'cause I can't even spell b*llocks!)
But, things being as they are, I didn't! Now back in London and regretting not chasing it up. Does anyone know of anyone UK based who fits the description? There's not a CASA bod at Australia House by any chance? Or even an Aussie qualified DAME around?
B*llocks!
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(edited 'cause I can't even spell b*llocks!)
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Oh well, to those people who have received their Photo ID congratulations.
It seems different CASA offices have there own priorities I guess. Mine seems to not want to push Canberra to process my application at all.
The information I posted was exactly what was told to me by my local CASA licencing officer, yours may be more friendly and complient. Good luck everyone!
It seems different CASA offices have there own priorities I guess. Mine seems to not want to push Canberra to process my application at all.
The information I posted was exactly what was told to me by my local CASA licencing officer, yours may be more friendly and complient. Good luck everyone!
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CASA WEBSITE
CASA's website claims it will take 3 weeks to process the documentation. I hope they take the date from the Designated persons signature or date received at CASA?
Enter photo ID in the search engine at the top of the web page and the relevant information should be at the top of the list.
Bastards!
Enter photo ID in the search engine at the top of the web page and the relevant information should be at the top of the list.
Bastards!