Lost Log Book
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Lost Log Book
Just a quick one guy and girls, if your log book and license was inside your car when it was stolen what do you do? Does CASA keep records? Or am I starting from scratch again? Has anyone had a similar thing happen or got any advice for me
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Mate i was in the CASA office today asking sort of the same thing.
On my travels my logbook has been completly trashed and coffee spilt on it and the like. I wanted to rewrite it nice and neat and was wondering what the go was. The bird reckons I have to keep it until I fill in the last page then move on. Anyway, enough of my little adventure.....
Its not quite the same problem as you I know. Personally I think the only answer is going back to all your old schools and employers and gather up all your hours and start from scratch. CASA dont keep accurate records of your hours, only qual's which you have on your licence anyway.
Good luck with it.
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On my travels my logbook has been completly trashed and coffee spilt on it and the like. I wanted to rewrite it nice and neat and was wondering what the go was. The bird reckons I have to keep it until I fill in the last page then move on. Anyway, enough of my little adventure.....
Its not quite the same problem as you I know. Personally I think the only answer is going back to all your old schools and employers and gather up all your hours and start from scratch. CASA dont keep accurate records of your hours, only qual's which you have on your licence anyway.
Good luck with it.
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I do the standard logbook and then fill out the xcell spreadsheets I've made. Has the same entries as my logbook but extra pages with graphs.trends, tot times etc.
I also keep backups
I also keep backups
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Photocopy your logbook. I snuck into the red carpet club in San Fransisco a few days ago when I was there and used their free photocopier. Mind you it took me about 20 minutes to copy what I did (about 4 years worth) and i still have more to photocopy. Once I have it all, im going to put it into a very safe place so if my logbook is indeed stolen, i have a copy of everything I have done, and at the most all i will have to recreate is the last 12 months.
I had to ask CASA the same question some years ago when my car was broken into, and my log book and other valuable items stolen.
I was advised the onus was on me to prove that I had flown any hours for which I was claiming credit, and that the best way to do that was to keep photocopies of every page or have a backup on computer.
Fortunately my flight bag and all its contents were found several days later not far from where it was taken.
I was advised the onus was on me to prove that I had flown any hours for which I was claiming credit, and that the best way to do that was to keep photocopies of every page or have a backup on computer.
Fortunately my flight bag and all its contents were found several days later not far from where it was taken.
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Huh!!!!! I know a pilot who claimed twice that his car was broken into and his flight bag was stolen the night before a CASA audit!!!! I think the first time was alright, but the second time, a few eyebrows were raised!!!!
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Super Cecil - yes i do
What programs do you use to keep the logbooks electronically? I downloaded Command Logbook (trial version) but i must say that it didnt impress me that much. Am i missing something?
What programs do you use to keep the logbooks electronically? I downloaded Command Logbook (trial version) but i must say that it didnt impress me that much. Am i missing something?
CaptainToBe,
I use a great excell based logbook created by fellow PPRuNer P-Air. It's good because it has the same layout as the common ATC Logbook so it all matches up.
Since P-Air hasn't replied yet here is where you can get it...
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pairlawrie/
I use a great excell based logbook created by fellow PPRuNer P-Air. It's good because it has the same layout as the common ATC Logbook so it all matches up.
Since P-Air hasn't replied yet here is where you can get it...
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pairlawrie/
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As others have said, the absolute minimum backup that every student pilot should be encouraged to carry out from day one is to photocopy each completed page of logbook (and perhaps whenever significant milestones are achieved).
Theft from car seems like the most common cause for lost records, but the house fire scenario could easily happen to anyone. Ultimately, it doesn't matter how, the loss of a logbook is not something you can put a value on. Without a backup of some sort, you are up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
It makes sense to keep a backup at another location (locker at work, parent's place...).
Believe me, it is a real pain in the @r$e trying to recreate from old flying receipts (if you've kept them) and you can never recover those occasions when you lucked in and scored 20 minutes of dual in some exotic aircraft.
If you're lucky enough to still be in touch with your instructors, they may be able to help you with the details of lessons you flew with them. This is where an Excel spreadsheet is useful. You can sort by name and send them the dates of the flights you did with them and ask them to look up their records and fill in the detail for you. (Remember that this will still require some effort on their part and some sort of compensation for their time should be offered.)
Theft from car seems like the most common cause for lost records, but the house fire scenario could easily happen to anyone. Ultimately, it doesn't matter how, the loss of a logbook is not something you can put a value on. Without a backup of some sort, you are up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
It makes sense to keep a backup at another location (locker at work, parent's place...).
Believe me, it is a real pain in the @r$e trying to recreate from old flying receipts (if you've kept them) and you can never recover those occasions when you lucked in and scored 20 minutes of dual in some exotic aircraft.
If you're lucky enough to still be in touch with your instructors, they may be able to help you with the details of lessons you flew with them. This is where an Excel spreadsheet is useful. You can sort by name and send them the dates of the flights you did with them and ask them to look up their records and fill in the detail for you. (Remember that this will still require some effort on their part and some sort of compensation for their time should be offered.)
