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G'day maxspeed,
Don't know where your headed, but here in NW NSW it was madness the few days leading up to xmas, as usual. Still busy, but things have settled down a little more. We keep getting lots of storms so things are still very wet................keeps those dirty groundrigs off the cotton!!!!!!!
Beware of the lines. Last count I think was about 30 line strikes for 2004, majority was in the West & South during winter.
Cheers,
Troup
Don't know where your headed, but here in NW NSW it was madness the few days leading up to xmas, as usual. Still busy, but things have settled down a little more. We keep getting lots of storms so things are still very wet................keeps those dirty groundrigs off the cotton!!!!!!!
Beware of the lines. Last count I think was about 30 line strikes for 2004, majority was in the West & South during winter.
Cheers,
Troup
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Pay refers to himself as a 'dungie'... as in a spreader of bat dung.
So how about "D & G Dungies"?
So how about "D & G Dungies"?
185 ag carryall's
have any of you blokes ever done any work in the 185 ag carryall with spray gear. i am thinking of selling my 185 A and trading up to a 1979 model ag carryall. it comes with the Sorensen spray gear. i am unlikely to use that in the near future. just looking for any experience you might have had with really big loads etc.
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...........185 workout
Only worked a 180 with hopper for spraying, from memory 400 litres was a good load (that's up high 3,500+). It'd only be any good for ULV work, maybe hoppers. Does Col still use his on Hoppers? Your machine has a 520 in it now? I doubt there'd be any difference in yours and a later model performance wise. If you get the later model you should have all the bugs out of it by the time the next lot of hoppers start giving trouble in 2009. That would give you plenty of time to get fit if your going to spray with one.
found a section in the proposed regs (136)today that would put an end to using Cherokee 6 and other such aircraft, for buffel seeding. it is in the definitions part page A114 i think.
"Aircraft engaged on Ag ops must be Ag certified." i am surprised that no-one has picked it up. i have sent it on to Phil at AAAA.
"Aircraft engaged on Ag ops must be Ag certified." i am surprised that no-one has picked it up. i have sent it on to Phil at AAAA.
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Gidday all
About to start my 3rd season loading and wish to do ag rating afterwards as have been offered a seat on compleation of the rating. Can anyone recomend where to do this and an idear of the costs.
About to start my 3rd season loading and wish to do ag rating afterwards as have been offered a seat on compleation of the rating. Can anyone recomend where to do this and an idear of the costs.
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solowflyer,
Col Pay is the best, however he does not do many anymore. Depends on where you are? There are plenty of good guys around the country who do Ag ratings.
Lucky you don't need to pass any spelling tests to be an Ag pilot!!!
Back to work,
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Troup
Col Pay is the best, however he does not do many anymore. Depends on where you are? There are plenty of good guys around the country who do Ag ratings.
Lucky you don't need to pass any spelling tests to be an Ag pilot!!!
Back to work,
Cheers,
Troup
try barry foster at Woorayl Air in Leongatha Vic, or tony jones at Rebel Ag Trangie NSW or tony pratt at Kingaroy QLD.
cost me around $6000 but i used my 185 (plus $1000 extra insurance for that period) for a fair bit of it. would probably be around $10K-$13K if you don't have a tailwheel endorsement. make sure you have passed the CASA ag exam (useful but mostly old stuff) prior to training and do the AAAA spraysafe exam as well.
super troup,
this thread is rating pretty high. maybe we need a branch of our own.
cost me around $6000 but i used my 185 (plus $1000 extra insurance for that period) for a fair bit of it. would probably be around $10K-$13K if you don't have a tailwheel endorsement. make sure you have passed the CASA ag exam (useful but mostly old stuff) prior to training and do the AAAA spraysafe exam as well.
super troup,
this thread is rating pretty high. maybe we need a branch of our own.
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Shop around Solo.
Some people really only offer a souped up tail dragger rating.
Aim for someone that predominantly does what you will do on completion.
A spreading outfit is not much chop if you will be mostly spraying and vice versa, initially.
And avoid the bloke they call 40, 30, 20.
Log forty, pay for thirty, do twenty.
Not much to be gained there.
Good luck and congrats.
Some people really only offer a souped up tail dragger rating.
Aim for someone that predominantly does what you will do on completion.
A spreading outfit is not much chop if you will be mostly spraying and vice versa, initially.
And avoid the bloke they call 40, 30, 20.
Log forty, pay for thirty, do twenty.
Not much to be gained there.
Good luck and congrats.
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Before settling on anyone, ask around. I know one person who was very happy about his rating and then a few years down the track looked back and realised how little he really learn't and how lazy the instructor was, luckliy this pilot went on to work for good operators who polished him up, so to speak!
Check out how much experience the instructor has had on different areas of application, you will really want someone with lots of all round experience.
I believe the CASA exam has changed, but there is not a study manual for it, you use the old one??? Is this correct?
Dave Burgess is doing most of Pays ratings now.
185 - Am pushing for an Ag Pilot forum!!! Thats why i need word to get out so more people will use it! A lot won't use the AAAA one or Field Air, because it is not anonymous and I think a lot of Ag guys think Pprune is just for the airline guys.
Madness here on the cotton, very busy indeed.
Cheers,
Troup
Check out how much experience the instructor has had on different areas of application, you will really want someone with lots of all round experience.
I believe the CASA exam has changed, but there is not a study manual for it, you use the old one??? Is this correct?
Dave Burgess is doing most of Pays ratings now.
185 - Am pushing for an Ag Pilot forum!!! Thats why i need word to get out so more people will use it! A lot won't use the AAAA one or Field Air, because it is not anonymous and I think a lot of Ag guys think Pprune is just for the airline guys.
Madness here on the cotton, very busy indeed.
Cheers,
Troup
troup, you are correct re the AAAA and field air forums. paricularly the AAAA, which i can never remember the corect username and password.
the UBB type forum format is bloody good, we use it on the International 180/185 site and the CPA forum site. i think the 4 A's need to have something more accessible. don't know about the new ag exam? i thought that the new AAAA ag pilots manual was supposed to cover that.
we would need to ask one of the trainers/examiners.
the UBB type forum format is bloody good, we use it on the International 180/185 site and the CPA forum site. i think the 4 A's need to have something more accessible. don't know about the new ag exam? i thought that the new AAAA ag pilots manual was supposed to cover that.
we would need to ask one of the trainers/examiners.
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Fatal accident
The accident I know of happened somewhere near Dirranbandi. The pilot, Graham Bruce, was flying an 802 for Peter Smart at Bourke for the cotton season.
I personally don't know Graham, know guys who have worked with him. He had not been in the industry for long, and has a young family too. Very sad. He is orginally from WA.
Reason for the accident is not known by myself yet or anyone I have spoken to at this stage.
There was also another accident this morning, near Wee Waa. Once again don't know too much, only that the pilot walked away. This one involved a 502.
Will post more info if I find out more.
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I personally don't know Graham, know guys who have worked with him. He had not been in the industry for long, and has a young family too. Very sad. He is orginally from WA.
Reason for the accident is not known by myself yet or anyone I have spoken to at this stage.
There was also another accident this morning, near Wee Waa. Once again don't know too much, only that the pilot walked away. This one involved a 502.
Will post more info if I find out more.
Super Trouper