It's official - Forklift drivers earn more than most pilots
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Gidday RFKB. You'll have to help me drink it 
Personally, I hated the Hysters. They all had crashboxes and the hydraulics were sus.
I reckon the Toyotas and Nissans were the go...Wicked burnout material
Plus the roll clamps were great for restraining unruly process workers through their lunch breaks
Ah, the halcyon days of no 5 checks a year, no study, and go home and forget the place.............And a management that respected you as an individual and wasn't trying to screw you at every turn.
Personally, I hated the Hysters. They all had crashboxes and the hydraulics were sus.
I reckon the Toyotas and Nissans were the go...Wicked burnout material
Plus the roll clamps were great for restraining unruly process workers through their lunch breaks Ah, the halcyon days of no 5 checks a year, no study, and go home and forget the place.............And a management that respected you as an individual and wasn't trying to screw you at every turn.
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Bloody depressing threed this one
It is worth a laugh though.
My uncle has just come back from OZ where he was a forman up in NT. Anyway was taking home about $100K a year had a Boat 2 houses and a couple of cars not a bad lifestyle but was working his ass off in excess of 70 hours a week. He moved up north got a job doing much the same thing in WR, the max he could get was $22 an hour for a 40 hour week. ( yes I know this is dragging out but I'm getting to my point
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He got a call the other day from OZ, the chap was begging him to return...........and the salary offered for a 60 hour week $160K.
My point is....................its supply and demand, unfourtunatley with all the pilots that get spat out in NZ we have screwed ourselves out of decent conditions and with no protection for GA pilots it causes a flow on effect into the regionals who will pay lower wages because it is actually viewed as a huge increase from GA where you earned $15K a year.
It would be very interesting to see what would happen if NZ had a GA award like OZ introduced.
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It is worth a laugh though.
My uncle has just come back from OZ where he was a forman up in NT. Anyway was taking home about $100K a year had a Boat 2 houses and a couple of cars not a bad lifestyle but was working his ass off in excess of 70 hours a week. He moved up north got a job doing much the same thing in WR, the max he could get was $22 an hour for a 40 hour week. ( yes I know this is dragging out but I'm getting to my point
)He got a call the other day from OZ, the chap was begging him to return...........and the salary offered for a 60 hour week $160K.
My point is....................its supply and demand, unfourtunatley with all the pilots that get spat out in NZ we have screwed ourselves out of decent conditions and with no protection for GA pilots it causes a flow on effect into the regionals who will pay lower wages because it is actually viewed as a huge increase from GA where you earned $15K a year.
It would be very interesting to see what would happen if NZ had a GA award like OZ introduced.
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Gotta kiwi cuzzy is part time shearer nearly sixty always smilin looks fifteen drinks piss and fishes when he wants to can hardly write his name owns about twenty houses up the Bay of Islands way.
Dont chose the wrong career if you want to live well in kiwi.
Dont chose the wrong career if you want to live well in kiwi.
Nunc est bibendum
Following on from splats points about supply and demand, this was on news.com.au
...and obviously a lot of pilots too!
This is the full article:
ELECTRICIANS, welders, boilermakers, plumbers and other skilled tradespeople are snapping up $100,000-plus jobs as the nation's skills shortage boosts wages.
Tradespeople in certain areas are now earning more than some doctors, dentists, architects and teachers.
Tradespeople in certain areas are now earning more than some doctors, dentists, architects and teachers.
This is the full article:
Skills shortage impacts salaries
ELECTRICIANS, welders, boilermakers, plumbers and other skilled tradespeople are snapping up $100,000-plus jobs as the nation's skills shortage boosts wages.
Tradespeople in certain areas are now earning more than some doctors, dentists, architects and teachers.
Business groups estimate Australia needs 21,000 extra tradespeople to solve the national crisis.
The shortage has hit household budgets with the cost of trade contractors up 12.5 per cent in 12 months, a Housing Industry Association report found.
It could affect interest rates.
Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry chief executive Peter Hendy said the lack of qualified workers was the biggest hurdle for business.
This was the case for the first time in 14 years, he said.
"There is some anecdotal evidence that there is pressure building on wages across the board," Mr Hendy said.
"It's not showing in the official numbers yet but the Reserve Bank and Treasury are all watching for the impact wages will have on interest rates." Metropolitan newspapers last weekend carried job vacancies advertising $100,000-a-year packages for airconditioning electricians and $70,000 salaries for kitchen cabinet installers.
A Housing Industry of Australia report found ceramic tilers' prices were more than 20 per cent higher in the year to June. There was an 18.3 per cent rise in builders' rates and 12.5 per cent rise in carpenters' costs. Plumbers' and brickies' rates were up 11 per cent.
Australian Industry Group chief executive Heather Ridout said a shortage of skilled building workers made costs dearer.
Occupations and average annual salaries
TRADES
Aircraft maintenance engineer: $51,636
Mechanic: $32,864
Electrician: $43,420
Plumber: $45,240
Mechanical engineering tradesperson: $63,024
UNIVERSITY GRADUATES
Architecture: $28,000
Nursing: $35,000
Law: $39,480
Education: $39,700
Medicine: $45,000
Dentistry: $55,000
Source: What Jobs Pay 2004-2005/www.gradlink.edu.au. Look for the tile at the top of the home page that reads gradsonline –what are you worth?
Fleur Anderson, The Daily Telegraph, October 19, 2004
ELECTRICIANS, welders, boilermakers, plumbers and other skilled tradespeople are snapping up $100,000-plus jobs as the nation's skills shortage boosts wages.
Tradespeople in certain areas are now earning more than some doctors, dentists, architects and teachers.
Business groups estimate Australia needs 21,000 extra tradespeople to solve the national crisis.
The shortage has hit household budgets with the cost of trade contractors up 12.5 per cent in 12 months, a Housing Industry Association report found.
It could affect interest rates.
Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry chief executive Peter Hendy said the lack of qualified workers was the biggest hurdle for business.
This was the case for the first time in 14 years, he said.
"There is some anecdotal evidence that there is pressure building on wages across the board," Mr Hendy said.
"It's not showing in the official numbers yet but the Reserve Bank and Treasury are all watching for the impact wages will have on interest rates." Metropolitan newspapers last weekend carried job vacancies advertising $100,000-a-year packages for airconditioning electricians and $70,000 salaries for kitchen cabinet installers.
A Housing Industry of Australia report found ceramic tilers' prices were more than 20 per cent higher in the year to June. There was an 18.3 per cent rise in builders' rates and 12.5 per cent rise in carpenters' costs. Plumbers' and brickies' rates were up 11 per cent.
Australian Industry Group chief executive Heather Ridout said a shortage of skilled building workers made costs dearer.
Occupations and average annual salaries
TRADES
Aircraft maintenance engineer: $51,636
Mechanic: $32,864
Electrician: $43,420
Plumber: $45,240
Mechanical engineering tradesperson: $63,024
UNIVERSITY GRADUATES
Architecture: $28,000
Nursing: $35,000
Law: $39,480
Education: $39,700
Medicine: $45,000
Dentistry: $55,000
Source: What Jobs Pay 2004-2005/www.gradlink.edu.au. Look for the tile at the top of the home page that reads gradsonline –what are you worth?
Fleur Anderson, The Daily Telegraph, October 19, 2004
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
.....and on from Keg's post.
My parents have friends whose son is a Doctor (of medicine). He has given up his practice, and is now an electrician, earning 2 - 3 times the salary he got as as G.P. with none of the associated headaches.
In my case, I'm currently doing a "distance education" course that I can complete on those wasted stay patterns (due to inefficient scheduling) in 2 - 4 weeks, and that will qualify me to pick up about $500 for an hour of easy work.
No medicals, no 6 monthly sims, no retirement age restrictions. I choose when I want to work.
Pilots are being driven AWAY from employers at a time when retirements are going to create a DRAMATIC pilot shortage.
Once established in my new business, I might make myself available on a part time basis to airlines eg. willing to work Saturdays & Sundays, and public hols, to let the REAL pilots have some quality time off...............but only if the rate that is acceptable to ME!
My parents have friends whose son is a Doctor (of medicine). He has given up his practice, and is now an electrician, earning 2 - 3 times the salary he got as as G.P. with none of the associated headaches.
In my case, I'm currently doing a "distance education" course that I can complete on those wasted stay patterns (due to inefficient scheduling) in 2 - 4 weeks, and that will qualify me to pick up about $500 for an hour of easy work.
No medicals, no 6 monthly sims, no retirement age restrictions. I choose when I want to work.
Pilots are being driven AWAY from employers at a time when retirements are going to create a DRAMATIC pilot shortage.
Once established in my new business, I might make myself available on a part time basis to airlines eg. willing to work Saturdays & Sundays, and public hols, to let the REAL pilots have some quality time off...............but only if the rate that is acceptable to ME!
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A GA award for NZ would at least give you an arguing point.
However, you will still get new Pilots willing to work for free or little to get a foot in the door. And operators willing to take them on.
Despite an award being in place and all that is written on prune, there is no shortage of Pilots who will do anything to get a start.
For an award to be effective, some form of solidarity is required, and that is something I have never seen in GA.
History has shown that even up the aviation ladder, there is little Solidarity but I don't want to spark off a tired subject there.
A GA award for NZ would at least give you an arguing point.
However, you will still get new Pilots willing to work for free or little to get a foot in the door. And operators willing to take them on.
Despite an award being in place and all that is written on prune, there is no shortage of Pilots who will do anything to get a start.
For an award to be effective, some form of solidarity is required, and that is something I have never seen in GA.
History has shown that even up the aviation ladder, there is little Solidarity but I don't want to spark off a tired subject there.
