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EPIRB, who paid for your two australian airlines jobs.
-Australian taxpayer
-slave money from corrupt corporations
-politician traveling on other peoples hard work money
-money made from the privatisations of aviation infrastructure and the flow on effect of the corporatisation.
the list could go on.
If ss0001 had his training paid for by his/her parents, did you both to find out if they are honest people.
Earning isn't the same as growth.
U2
-Australian taxpayer
-slave money from corrupt corporations
-politician traveling on other peoples hard work money
-money made from the privatisations of aviation infrastructure and the flow on effect of the corporatisation.
the list could go on.
If ss0001 had his training paid for by his/her parents, did you both to find out if they are honest people.
Earning isn't the same as growth.
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U2, who gives a **** who paid for his airline jobs. It sounds like he worked hard for them and got what he deserves. I hope he didn't pay for his endorsement there. PS Go and take some English lessons, you're punctuation/spelling is dreadful.
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for those of you who asked where the cash is coming from, 'mummy & daddy' haven't paid a cent. My hard won earnings come from another trade I did before entering the well paid world of the GA pilot...
yes, something along the lines of the post re the bandit endorsement plus 200hrs was what I was thinking of. Reading all the posts thus far it sounds like there's nothing like this on offer in Aust.
I read somewhere once there are plenty of companies doing this in the US but the cost is big bucks US$40K (?)
yes, something along the lines of the post re the bandit endorsement plus 200hrs was what I was thinking of. Reading all the posts thus far it sounds like there's nothing like this on offer in Aust.
I read somewhere once there are plenty of companies doing this in the US but the cost is big bucks US$40K (?)
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U2, yes, I suppose all of those people on your list contributed to the cost of my endorsements, just like they did for the vast majority of airline pilots. Passengers like those you mentioned (who are most likely a very small minority anyway. No doubt Virgin fly them too.), whether you like it or not, are just a fact of life. I get the impression that you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder about who paid for my airline training. Why?
Can somebody explain why an employee should pay for their endorsement rather than their employer?
Can somebody explain why an employee should pay for their endorsement rather than their employer?
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want to buy myself a job...
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EPIRB / Massey Pro,
I agree with what you both state. In an ideal world when you are employed into a new carrier, no matter what the size, the endorsement and training should be part of the package, all be it with perhaps a "return of service" agreement / bond.
Also I must apologise to EPIRB as after reading what I had written earlier. I did not mean to paint you in the manner it is too easilly interpreted, ie who is hired over who..... I just believe that the differences in commitment between one who goes into great financial debt and the pressures associated with that debt are not too dis-similar to another's commitment doing things out in the bush.
My point is that the sorry fact of this world is that the days that EPIRB had are unfortunately going along with the rise of the word wide low cost carrier boom. If you were a director, it was your money and therefore bat and ball what would you do? Pay the $24 - $28 grand (indirectly) yourself or employ suitably qualified people willing to pay it for you?? That is the way it is, no if's but's or maybe's. Those at VB, Jetstar (soon to be) and Brunei do pay for their job. As mentioned, no money, no job. Cut and dry.
If SS_001 chooses to go down the path he or she is considering then what business is it of anyone's? He/she earnt and saved the money him/herself, just like the VB, Jetstar, Brunei drivers did and will continue to. If an applicant meets and exceeds a job's requirments with min hours at the age of say 23 as opposed to another some 3 to 5 years older what is wrong with that? I just wish people in this industry would not be so narrow minded and accept, unfortunately, the way things are now and will continue to be. The $15 grand SS_001 is talking about could be readily retrieved in a better salary being earnt a few years earlier than expected. Investment in yourself and career is better than the investment I have put into the Bundy Rum Factory over the many years.....
Again, I don't like it, but it's the way things are.
I agree with what you both state. In an ideal world when you are employed into a new carrier, no matter what the size, the endorsement and training should be part of the package, all be it with perhaps a "return of service" agreement / bond.
Also I must apologise to EPIRB as after reading what I had written earlier. I did not mean to paint you in the manner it is too easilly interpreted, ie who is hired over who..... I just believe that the differences in commitment between one who goes into great financial debt and the pressures associated with that debt are not too dis-similar to another's commitment doing things out in the bush.
My point is that the sorry fact of this world is that the days that EPIRB had are unfortunately going along with the rise of the word wide low cost carrier boom. If you were a director, it was your money and therefore bat and ball what would you do? Pay the $24 - $28 grand (indirectly) yourself or employ suitably qualified people willing to pay it for you?? That is the way it is, no if's but's or maybe's. Those at VB, Jetstar (soon to be) and Brunei do pay for their job. As mentioned, no money, no job. Cut and dry.
If SS_001 chooses to go down the path he or she is considering then what business is it of anyone's? He/she earnt and saved the money him/herself, just like the VB, Jetstar, Brunei drivers did and will continue to. If an applicant meets and exceeds a job's requirments with min hours at the age of say 23 as opposed to another some 3 to 5 years older what is wrong with that? I just wish people in this industry would not be so narrow minded and accept, unfortunately, the way things are now and will continue to be. The $15 grand SS_001 is talking about could be readily retrieved in a better salary being earnt a few years earlier than expected. Investment in yourself and career is better than the investment I have put into the Bundy Rum Factory over the many years.....
Again, I don't like it, but it's the way things are.
