NAC pilots threatened with sack...PART 2
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I have received a communication from the operator which contained the following letters from both the AFAP and the Company.
The Australian industrial relations legislative framework provides various formats – including Awards, EBAs and AWAs - designed to ensure a flexible and viable work place both for employees and employers.
Provided this operator is engaging and remunerating it’s employees in accordance with one of the Australian legislative frameworks available, it is acting in accordance with Australian industrial relations law.
All employees have an individual right of whether they choose to sign an EBA or AWA, or not.
Neither PPRuNe nor Woomera support the use of the word “scab” in these forums.
It would appear this operator’s employees have obtained an equitable and legally acceptable format of employment. This PPRuNe thread has achieved it’s objective and in all fairness, is now locked. Feel free to open a new thread, but only if the conditions being offered to existing and new employees are not in accordance with Industrial Relations law.
Woomera
The Australian industrial relations legislative framework provides various formats – including Awards, EBAs and AWAs - designed to ensure a flexible and viable work place both for employees and employers.
Provided this operator is engaging and remunerating it’s employees in accordance with one of the Australian legislative frameworks available, it is acting in accordance with Australian industrial relations law.
All employees have an individual right of whether they choose to sign an EBA or AWA, or not.
Neither PPRuNe nor Woomera support the use of the word “scab” in these forums.
It would appear this operator’s employees have obtained an equitable and legally acceptable format of employment. This PPRuNe thread has achieved it’s objective and in all fairness, is now locked. Feel free to open a new thread, but only if the conditions being offered to existing and new employees are not in accordance with Industrial Relations law.
Woomera
MEMORANDUM
TO: (Company) Pilots
FROM: (AFAP Representative)
DATE: 30th August 2004
SUBJECT: EBA Update
The Federation was contacted by (the Company) this morning both by phone and email to confirm that the Company is prepared to enter into an Enterprise Agreement with the Federation.
The agreement will be along the lines as we had drafted and forwarded to the Company recently. The position is to be clarified with (the Managing Director) in the next two or so days to finalise the exact words of the clauses.
Once that has been completed we will forward a copy to all pilots asking them to consider the document and then we will conduct a ballot in accordance with the Workplace Relations Act.
The above should be seen as a positive step in respect to what has been happening recently. The Company makes it clear that some pilots have opted to move to a contract arrangement and they will still be engaged. Ultimately the position will be one of the individual pilots decision.
On that note the Company has also asked that there have been reports of name calling - ‘scabs’ and the like. Please be aware that this is not supported by the Federation and would be treated in exactly the same fashion as the Company applying ‘pressure’ to sign on as a contractor. If this is occurring you are advised to stop immediately.
This is an opportunity to address the working conditions at (the Company) for now and the future with a common sense approach to both sides advantage.
We look forward to your continuing support and very shortly an EBA that will address the concerns previously held.
(AFAP Representative)
TO: (Company) Pilots
FROM: (AFAP Representative)
DATE: 30th August 2004
SUBJECT: EBA Update
The Federation was contacted by (the Company) this morning both by phone and email to confirm that the Company is prepared to enter into an Enterprise Agreement with the Federation.
The agreement will be along the lines as we had drafted and forwarded to the Company recently. The position is to be clarified with (the Managing Director) in the next two or so days to finalise the exact words of the clauses.
Once that has been completed we will forward a copy to all pilots asking them to consider the document and then we will conduct a ballot in accordance with the Workplace Relations Act.
The above should be seen as a positive step in respect to what has been happening recently. The Company makes it clear that some pilots have opted to move to a contract arrangement and they will still be engaged. Ultimately the position will be one of the individual pilots decision.
On that note the Company has also asked that there have been reports of name calling - ‘scabs’ and the like. Please be aware that this is not supported by the Federation and would be treated in exactly the same fashion as the Company applying ‘pressure’ to sign on as a contractor. If this is occurring you are advised to stop immediately.
This is an opportunity to address the working conditions at (the Company) for now and the future with a common sense approach to both sides advantage.
We look forward to your continuing support and very shortly an EBA that will address the concerns previously held.
(AFAP Representative)
MEMO FROM
MANAGING DIRECTOR
Monday, August 30, 2004
It has come to my attention that there is a certain pilot group causing problems for other pilots. Frankly it disgusts me that you would want to cause your fellow aviators any grief. Work arrangements are choice with individuals.
At no point has it been mandatory to sign onto become a contractor. In fact if you listened to your representation, the AFAP then you would know that I am currently in negotiations to finalize an Enterprise bargaining agreement (EBA). At which point you will have two work arrangement options. The AFAP do not have any legal problems with the contracting system and have said that it is up to individuals if they wish to become a contractor.
To interrogate potential future employees is pathetic really and please do not try to say that it is not happening, as I know it is. No one has made any effort to discuss the issues with management (apart from on public rumor networks). This does not concern me as I had a very productive meeting with the AFAP.
Labeling people “scabs” for making their own work decisions will not be tolerated. It will be seen as harassment in the workplace and as such it will be dealt with in the strictest of manners through the industrial relations commission.
I will repeat myself one last time the AFAP and (the Company) are working together to form an EBA. In the interim I would ask that you have a serious think before jumping on the bandwagon of insulting fellow peers. It is a choice whether or not you want to be a contractor; Australia is a democracy, do not punish those who make their own decisions.
Please feel free to discuss the above with either your AFAP representation or myself.
Regards,
Managing Director.
MANAGING DIRECTOR
Monday, August 30, 2004
It has come to my attention that there is a certain pilot group causing problems for other pilots. Frankly it disgusts me that you would want to cause your fellow aviators any grief. Work arrangements are choice with individuals.
At no point has it been mandatory to sign onto become a contractor. In fact if you listened to your representation, the AFAP then you would know that I am currently in negotiations to finalize an Enterprise bargaining agreement (EBA). At which point you will have two work arrangement options. The AFAP do not have any legal problems with the contracting system and have said that it is up to individuals if they wish to become a contractor.
To interrogate potential future employees is pathetic really and please do not try to say that it is not happening, as I know it is. No one has made any effort to discuss the issues with management (apart from on public rumor networks). This does not concern me as I had a very productive meeting with the AFAP.
Labeling people “scabs” for making their own work decisions will not be tolerated. It will be seen as harassment in the workplace and as such it will be dealt with in the strictest of manners through the industrial relations commission.
I will repeat myself one last time the AFAP and (the Company) are working together to form an EBA. In the interim I would ask that you have a serious think before jumping on the bandwagon of insulting fellow peers. It is a choice whether or not you want to be a contractor; Australia is a democracy, do not punish those who make their own decisions.
Please feel free to discuss the above with either your AFAP representation or myself.
Regards,
Managing Director.
