Job market in NZ...
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Hi,
Just wondering what the job scene is like over in NZ at the moment regarding sightseeing tours, crop spraying, instructing, air taxi work etc
I presume I would have to convert my licence to an NZ one and do all the theory again??
Cheers in advance
Foz
Just wondering what the job scene is like over in NZ at the moment regarding sightseeing tours, crop spraying, instructing, air taxi work etc
I presume I would have to convert my licence to an NZ one and do all the theory again??
Cheers in advance
Foz
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what job market
nil
nyet
none
not a saugage
not a brass razoo
Not a hope
NZ is flooded with pilots with no jobs. Unless you have 1500 hours total and 500 hours multi then the regionals might have a look.
Top Dressing you will need about 5000 hours total topdressing and 1000 turbine topdressing to cover insurance.
nyet
none
not a saugage
not a brass razoo
Not a hope
NZ is flooded with pilots with no jobs. Unless you have 1500 hours total and 500 hours multi then the regionals might have a look.
Top Dressing you will need about 5000 hours total topdressing and 1000 turbine topdressing to cover insurance.
You do not need to do any exams as long as you have a CPL or higher. Just show your log book and licence, pay the money and they'll give you an NZ licence. The only place you may fall over is if you only have a Co-Pilot IR, NZ does not have those.
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New Zealand licence conversion
THE ONLY licence that is a straight conversion to the NZ is the Aussie CPL or ATPL with or without the IR rating. PPLs are covered under different specifications. The Aussie "command instrument rating" is the only IF rating that transfers from Aussie to NZ
All others are at the discression of CAA. Brand new CPL's and ATPL's from other than Aussie require supporting documents to CAA and they will determine the change. The usual accepted is conversion if a mimimum of 500 hours using the CPL or ATPL and a law exam. If you dont have the 500 odd hours (1000 ATPL) using your CPL or ATPL then you are required to pass all CPL ATPL exams and do a flight test.
Still a better deal than an Aussie or Kiwi trying for a pommie licence.
The UK BCPL in not recognised at all in NZ you would need to do all CPL subjects and the required flight training and flight test.
www.caa.govt.nz has the rules and is available on line.
the specific rules on changing licences is covered here.
www.caa.govt.nz/pilots/pilots.htm
The Trans-Tasman agreement is only between NZ and AUST licence holdes
All others are at the discression of CAA. Brand new CPL's and ATPL's from other than Aussie require supporting documents to CAA and they will determine the change. The usual accepted is conversion if a mimimum of 500 hours using the CPL or ATPL and a law exam. If you dont have the 500 odd hours (1000 ATPL) using your CPL or ATPL then you are required to pass all CPL ATPL exams and do a flight test.
Still a better deal than an Aussie or Kiwi trying for a pommie licence.
The UK BCPL in not recognised at all in NZ you would need to do all CPL subjects and the required flight training and flight test.
www.caa.govt.nz has the rules and is available on line.
the specific rules on changing licences is covered here.
www.caa.govt.nz/pilots/pilots.htm
The Trans-Tasman agreement is only between NZ and AUST licence holdes
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pointyendforward, I don't know where you've been, or where you learned (or didn't) to spell? The GA and regional markets in NZ are the strongest they've been for years. There is a real difficulty finding experienced charter pilots and instructors.
The only exception is agricultural work. This 'flood of jobless pilots' is obviousely looking in the wrong places. It's getting to the stage where some companies are almost having to advertise to get applicants for twin jobs - unheard of in the last few years! It has got to the point were the CAA is getting seriously worried about the lack of experience in GA - it will only get better (worse if you're CAA) with projected airline hiring in the next year or so.
Foz2, get on the net, do your research and get in contact with some of these operators - your best bet is VFR scenic operations to begin with. Hope that helps. (btw, reagionals will 'have a look' at anything over 1000 total, 200 multi).
The only exception is agricultural work. This 'flood of jobless pilots' is obviousely looking in the wrong places. It's getting to the stage where some companies are almost having to advertise to get applicants for twin jobs - unheard of in the last few years! It has got to the point were the CAA is getting seriously worried about the lack of experience in GA - it will only get better (worse if you're CAA) with projected airline hiring in the next year or so.
Foz2, get on the net, do your research and get in contact with some of these operators - your best bet is VFR scenic operations to begin with. Hope that helps. (btw, reagionals will 'have a look' at anything over 1000 total, 200 multi).
Just a question for those of u nz's guys/gals there? How are oz pilots regarded in comparison to nz pilots. better/worse etc with our training compared to yours, and would you seriously consider moving country to get work just so that you could work back in your home country (no offence at all intended, just thinking about family/friends etc) once u had gained significant hours?
If someone could let me know that would be great, im just at that stage in my career (or lack there of) where Im thinking of ALL the options!
thanks in advance
If someone could let me know that would be great, im just at that stage in my career (or lack there of) where Im thinking of ALL the options!
thanks in advance
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Training quality
The fact that CASA and CAA accept pilots from each other's country without reservation (CPL to CPL, ATPL to ATPL, IR to IR) says a bit about how small the differences are between the two countries.
Anecdotally I know a pilot who went from NZ aero club to NZ flying school to Aust flying school to NZ regional over the space of six years or so.
I think pay and standard of living is lower in NZ than in Australia though, especially once you take into account cost of living and tax rates etc.
Best of luck with job hunting,
O8
Anecdotally I know a pilot who went from NZ aero club to NZ flying school to Aust flying school to NZ regional over the space of six years or so.
I think pay and standard of living is lower in NZ than in Australia though, especially once you take into account cost of living and tax rates etc.
Best of luck with job hunting,
O8
Cloud Cutter,
Can you please tell me where all these multi jobs are?
Myself and several friends are all getting pretty worried that we have over 2000tt with very little multi (less than 150) and that we are going to miss the boat.
Any help/advice appreciated.
S2K4 eva
Can you please tell me where all these multi jobs are?
Myself and several friends are all getting pretty worried that we have over 2000tt with very little multi (less than 150) and that we are going to miss the boat.
Any help/advice appreciated.
S2K4 eva
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I recommend you get a copy of the wings directory and start making a list of who you can go and see.
Sunair
Mountain Air
GBA
That outfit in Taupo but based in HLZ
Air Naiper
Air west coast
ect ect ect ect ect ect ect
There is plenty out there you just have to get on the phone.
Good luck.
splat
Sunair
Mountain Air
GBA
That outfit in Taupo but based in HLZ
Air Naiper
Air west coast
ect ect ect ect ect ect ect
There is plenty out there you just have to get on the phone.
Good luck.
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Lower your sights, and persist. That's if you're serious about getting multi time. You have to be prepared to put in the hard yards for little reward - but of course, the rewards are there in the end. Look at operators who 'do a bit' of twin work - they are less saught after by potential employees. Keep ringing, visiting and updating - be the squeeky wheel.
