Logging of Flight Time
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Logging of Flight Time
Hi All
This may sound like a silly question but here goes.
Casa mandates that the logging of time in ones log book be flight time as per Casa Log Book Entires
Does this mean that logging of only flight time however paying for VDO (engine start to stop) means that the taxi time is unloggable, even though your in command. ????
Thoughts ????
Ang
This may sound like a silly question but here goes.
Casa mandates that the logging of time in ones log book be flight time as per Casa Log Book Entires
Does this mean that logging of only flight time however paying for VDO (engine start to stop) means that the taxi time is unloggable, even though your in command. ????
Thoughts ????
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My understanding is that FLIGHT TIME is from the time that the aircraft taxis under its' own power for the purpose of a flight, until it comes to rest at the end of a flight.
Therefore, if you are using a VDO/AIRSWITCH, then you must make an allowance for the taxi time and add it to your log book. If you don't then you would be liable to prosecution for false times in your log book.
Best way to do it, if you ask me, is just to make a log of the time that your a/c first taxis, then make a note of when you finish taxiing at the end of the flight, which would give you the time for your logbook. Failing that, maybe allow about 0.1 at each end as a taxi allowance.
Question I want to know is " if you DID taxi for the purpose of a flight, but never got airborne, can you log that? "
Therefore, if you are using a VDO/AIRSWITCH, then you must make an allowance for the taxi time and add it to your log book. If you don't then you would be liable to prosecution for false times in your log book.
Best way to do it, if you ask me, is just to make a log of the time that your a/c first taxis, then make a note of when you finish taxiing at the end of the flight, which would give you the time for your logbook. Failing that, maybe allow about 0.1 at each end as a taxi allowance.
Question I want to know is " if you DID taxi for the purpose of a flight, but never got airborne, can you log that? "
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Question I want to know is " if you DID taxi for the purpose of a flight, but never got airborne, can you log that? "
We often taxi from our hangar to the main terminal to pick up our pax from the jet. Nobody I know logs that time.
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Actually, I should clarify myself here, WHat I meant was that if you taxiied out with the INTENT to fly, but found the a/c unserviceable at the holding point... COULD you log that ?
I also have never logged time where I didn't fly, but I just think that the wording COULD be misconstrued.
I also have never logged time where I didn't fly, but I just think that the wording COULD be misconstrued.
If you can't log it, then I guess you are not in command of the aircraft.
So...if you are taxiing from the hangar to the main terminal to pick up your passengers, and run over someone, you cannot be prosecuted!
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But if you are taxiing to the terminal to pick up your passengers, wouldn't that come under the PURPOSE of FLIGHT rule?
So...if you are taxiing from the hangar to the main terminal to pick up your passengers, and run over someone, you cannot be prosecuted!
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But if you are taxiing to the terminal to pick up your passengers, wouldn't that come under the PURPOSE of FLIGHT rule?
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Huh?!!!!
Apache, I would've thought you could. The rule doesn't seem that ambiguous - there's no mention of a requirement to actually get airborne. We happily log 0.3-0.4 for a 20 min taxi at a large airport when we do get airborne, despite the fact that this is clearly not FLIGHT(time), so why not when we don't?
Just food for thought, haven't had occasion to yet.
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so-if you do fly-you don't log
Just food for thought, haven't had occasion to yet.
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You can log flight time as long as you were intending to take off. If you had a problem in the run up bay or something similar that prevented you from becoming airborne then you can log the taxi time as flight time
In Towering Q's case there is no intention to take off so you can't log it
In Towering Q's case there is no intention to take off so you can't log it
