Brindabella Woes...
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Brindabella Woes...
Hi all - anyone know whether there's any merit to this?
Brindabella Chieftain has wheels up at CB on Friday night.
Pilot happens to be ex-Cirrus with 2000 odd hours and DID in fact FORGET to put the wheels DOWN!!!
Sacked on the spot and went home with a VERY sore nose!
Anyone you know?
BO!
Brindabella Chieftain has wheels up at CB on Friday night.
Pilot happens to be ex-Cirrus with 2000 odd hours and DID in fact FORGET to put the wheels DOWN!!!
Sacked on the spot and went home with a VERY sore nose!
Anyone you know?
BO!
Assuming that this post is "fact" then I suppose the bosses of Brindabella have never made a mistake!!
Tell me this is a wind up and never happened!
Tell me this is a wind up and never happened!
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Sacked on the spot maybe, but a sore nose?????
Wana be a bloody big boss to get away with that around these parts.............. star picket proof no less.
Wana be a bloody big boss to get away with that around these parts.............. star picket proof no less.
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Sack the pilot.....yeah that will fix everything. How about going over things within the company like the use of check lists, the check and training within the organisation and looking at ways this mistake can be further reduced in the future. I don't know the details of this accident, but when I hear about companies reacting like this it tells me they are VERY narrow minded, and don't have much faith in their own check and training program.
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I cant believe what I'm reading, a guy prangs a perfectly good aeroplane because of his own lack of airmanship and all he gets is sympathy. If it was my aeroplane I'd deck 'im too.
From memory someone put a Cirrus chieftain down sans gear at
Parkes, wasn't same bloke was it!
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From memory someone put a Cirrus chieftain down sans gear at
Parkes, wasn't same bloke was it!
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Yeah that was my question too. Glad to hear that particular driver went on to better things - well done to him.
Where is Cirrus's mate Cruze Power now? Speak up my old friend...
Yeah that was my question too. Glad to hear that particular driver went on to better things - well done to him.
Where is Cirrus's mate Cruze Power now? Speak up my old friend...
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Straightnlevel,
Not sure what my CP would do, but I don't think there would be much left of me by the time he got to me!!
Essbee, do you know for a fact this accident happened due to "own lack of airmanship"?. Maybe you should put on any of your future CV's that you guarantee never to do a wheels up (for single pilot ops)....should go down a treat
Not sure what my CP would do, but I don't think there would be much left of me by the time he got to me!!
Essbee, do you know for a fact this accident happened due to "own lack of airmanship"?. Maybe you should put on any of your future CV's that you guarantee never to do a wheels up (for single pilot ops)....should go down a treat
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jeeezus,
IF its true, and it was a case of neglect, then sure he/she MUST go.
To simply forget to put ones wheels down demonstrates lethargy to the extreme. The damage he would have done to there business is devastating.
Then again, may have been a legit wheels up due mechanical probs eh? in which case, people walked away...well done
IF its true, and it was a case of neglect, then sure he/she MUST go.
To simply forget to put ones wheels down demonstrates lethargy to the extreme. The damage he would have done to there business is devastating.
Then again, may have been a legit wheels up due mechanical probs eh? in which case, people walked away...well done
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meanestman,
I hope if I ever have an incident that needs investigating, that your not the investigator.
Without knowing what factors led to the wheels up, it is unfair to crucify the pilot. Whilst the incident may well be one of neglect, there may also be several mittigating circumstances.
FWIW, I subscribe to the there are those who have and those who are yet to , or, there but for the grace of [insert deity of choice] go I philosophies.
Thus far I and most of us are in the yet to category. The easiest way to get into the have done category, IMHO, is to believe one couldn't possibly do it.
Without knowing what factors led to the wheels up, it is unfair to crucify the pilot. Whilst the incident may well be one of neglect, there may also be several mittigating circumstances.
FWIW, I subscribe to the there are those who have and those who are yet to , or, there but for the grace of [insert deity of choice] go I philosophies.
Thus far I and most of us are in the yet to category. The easiest way to get into the have done category, IMHO, is to believe one couldn't possibly do it.
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There are three types of pilots - those who have never had a wheels up, those who have had one, & those who have had more than one as an acquaintance of mine has! Whilst still sitting in his seat after his last one he phoned his wife & said "Honey, you'll never guess what I just did again!" 
Claret - I'm with you
Mini mean man - you sound as though you are new in the industry
Mini mean man - you sound as though you are new in the industry
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long enough to know that to accept neglect in the order of this simple and elementary act demonstrates a worrying level mediocrity in all those here who say it was just bad luck.
If you feel that to forget to dangle ones dunlops is something that is inevitable, as claret and megle are, illustrates a disturbing lack of confidence, professionalism and pride in ones work.
What is it with these repulsive aero clubbish cliches like "those that have and those that will" All I can say is, if thats your attitude, I can only pray my family isnt sitting behind one of you on lethargy day and you forget to put fuel in the thing.
my comments do not relate to the specific event that occurred to Brindabella. Knowing the propensity of rumoured rot read here, this pilot may well have some mechanical problem , in which case his/her actions were no doubt exemplary
If you feel that to forget to dangle ones dunlops is something that is inevitable, as claret and megle are, illustrates a disturbing lack of confidence, professionalism and pride in ones work.
What is it with these repulsive aero clubbish cliches like "those that have and those that will" All I can say is, if thats your attitude, I can only pray my family isnt sitting behind one of you on lethargy day and you forget to put fuel in the thing.
my comments do not relate to the specific event that occurred to Brindabella. Knowing the propensity of rumoured rot read here, this pilot may well have some mechanical problem , in which case his/her actions were no doubt exemplary