What job could a foreign 10k hr 777 pilot get in the USA?
Hello dear reader.
As my country, South Africa, is in dire straits and the future there is about as bright as an old bicycle light, I would dearly like to come and live in the USA. I have good 737 and 777 time. Realistically if I get a green card, and I try real hard, what would the best job be that I could go for and what sort of salary could I expect to be paid? Any companies offering to assist with green cards? A bit of insider knowledge would be invaluable here.. Many thanks in advance! |
Sounds like tough times in your country. I hope things work out for you.
How are you planning to get a green card ? Do you have FAA tickets ? I take it you're not a SAA pilot, so this plan not available to you ?: “SAA has explored options to transfer pilots to rival airlines Kenya Airways and Air Mauritius, as well as Emirates, Turkish, and Ethiopian Airlines, Jarana told Bloomberg. “ https://thepointsguy.com/news/south-...ther-airlines/ |
Realistically, nobody is sponsoring green cards for airline pilots. If you are somehow able to get a green card, you would easily be able to get a job at any regional airline. If you have a 4 year university degree, you would be competitive for a job at all of the major and legacy airlines but it would take some work and networking to get hired. |
I have received an invitation to work with one of US regional's airlines as a captain, that was not something that US airline used to do, but nowadays because of the shortage they are sponsoring the visa processes for some cases
I have flown the Boeing 737-300 to 737-800 for at least 21 years (about 15,000 hrs on the type) and I have about 3,200 hrs on Twin Otter Believe it or not, the salary that has been suggested by the US-based airline is not even half of what I get in the middle east, get your self a work in south-east Asia or middle east and stay away from China. Good luck |
Originally Posted by the737capt
(Post 10210588)
I have received an invitation to work with one of US regional's airlines as a captain, that was not something that US airline used to do, but nowadays because of the shortage they are sponsoring the visa processes for some cases
Interesting. Just for our general enlightenment, can you reveal your citizenship and what type of visa the regional offered you ? And how were you approached by them...or did you initiate an inquiry ? |
I hold the european and australian passports
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Originally Posted by the737capt
(Post 10211031)
I hold the european and australian passports
I see. So you'd most likely come here as an Aussie on an E3 visa ? I bet any regional would be quite happy to get you. If you have no FAA Part 121 experience, you'd have to knock out 1,000 hours of it before you could be employed as a captain: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/121.436 Are you seriously entertaining the idea ? |
You’re not going to like hearing this, but go study the 14 EASA exams and take whatever checkride you’ll need if you don’t already have the EASA license. Easyjet DEC based in sunny Barcelona or Faro if you like Portugal. Norwegian 787 DEC based in raining Gatwick or Rome if you like Italian food. If non of that suits you, try Vista Jets (biz jets) based anywhere you want in Europe. While the sound of living in the US is music to your ears right now, 6 months into your career with Skywest, Envoy, Go Jet, you’ll come to realize it’s not a green as you thought. My 2 cents! |
This is interesting. There was recently a thread in the bizjet section where an EK 777 CA couldn't wait to get out of the sandpit and run to...you guessed it, South Africa!
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Originally Posted by AfricanSkies
(Post 10210322)
Hello dear reader.
As my country, South Africa, is in dire straits and the future there is about as bright as an old bicycle light, I would dearly like to come and live in the USA. I have good 737 and 777 time. Realistically if I get a green card, and I try real hard, what would the best job be that I could go for and what sort of salary could I expect to be paid? Any companies offering to assist with green cards? A bit of insider knowledge would be invaluable here.. Many thanks in advance! I can sympathize with what you're going through having been there myself. The US pilot job market is a tough nut to crack, particularly if you don't have a green card. Even having it, you need to meet the distinctly American requirements to get hired, namely a college degree. It's virtually impossible to get hired by a major without it, although you could probably be hired by a LCC or freight operator like Atlas. You mention having B777 time. Where did you get that? There are no B777 operators in SA so I suspect you may have gained your experience in the middle east. I would explore carriers like Korean, ANA, and the many other Asian carriers that do hire expats. Good luck! |
Thanks for the replies, guys. Yes, 777 time in ME. Unfortunately no 4 yr degree, only a 3 yr one. Does the 4 year degree requirement apply to the big cargo carriers too? |
Check if your 3 year degree is equivalent to a US 4 year degree. I’m not an expert on education in SA, however most British 3 year courses are deemed as equivalent. |
FedEx for sure |
Originally Posted by AfricanSkies
(Post 10212457)
Unfortunately no 4 yr degree, only a 3 yr one.
It appears that while you may see an airline occasionally list a degree as "preferred", your competition will most likely have one. The career-destination jobs are competitive enough as it is. Good luck in the hunt. |
Contact PAS aviation, they are looking for south african pilots for Eurowings
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Contact PAS aviation, they are looking for south african pilots for Eurowings Believe it or not, the salary that has been suggested by the US-based airline is not even half of what I get in the middle east, get your self a work in south-east Asia or middle east and stay away from China. |
Are you willing to start over again from the regionals for some part 121 time having 737 and 777 experience already? Why don't you try DEC Emirates, Qatar, Fly Dubai? They pay more than double what a regional captain gets paid and it's all tax free!
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Originally Posted by AfricanSkies
(Post 10212457)
Thanks for the replies, guys. Yes, 777 time in ME. Unfortunately no 4 yr degree, only a 3 yr one. Does the 4 year degree requirement apply to the big cargo carriers too? |
A three year RSA Bachelors Degree is equivalent to a US four year Degree. I don't think that will be an issue. The US and few other countries are the exceptions in having four year Bachelor degrees - most countries are three (generally following the British system) more importantly both cover similar academic content in different time scales.
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