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InvestigateUdom 23rd Dec 2009 12:34

FAA Managers Party in Atlanta with $5M taxpayer money
 
Party Time at the FAA; Critics Question $5 Million Gathering - ABC News

I think this story says it all about the FAA. Useless, self-aggrandizing, losers.

InvestigateUdom 23rd Dec 2009 14:08

FAA rebuttal
 
The Associated Press: FAA reminds employees to act with decorum

To be fair: is there someone from the FAA who could explain/justify why FAA managers would need in-person training on this somewhat new ATC contract?

West Coast 23rd Dec 2009 15:12

A number of close friends filtered through the meetings. All said it was worthwhile. The ambush job ABC news did focused in on the after hours party.

InvestigateUdom 23rd Dec 2009 17:54

Specifics would be more enlightening than "all said it was worthwhile".

Why was in-person training on the not-quite-new ATC contract appropriate use of taxpayer money?

West Coast 23rd Dec 2009 18:08

A lot of back and forth between the managers and lawyers running the conference and the front line managers from the individual facilities attending. Many "what if" and interpretation of the contract types of questions that required a two way dialogue, something that a power point presentation wouldn't properly support.

hetfield 23rd Dec 2009 18:14

Nigerian type of meeting, not more......

MarkerInbound 23rd Dec 2009 22:19

If you divide 5 mil by 3,600 it's under 1400 each, which is about 5 days of hotel and per diem. Throw in airfare and you have two or three days of meetings. What gets me is that there are 3,600 managers in ATC. Why can't I ever find one?

InvestigateUdom 24th Dec 2009 15:01

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but not getting the info I seek
 
I'd appreciate someone describing specific questions and responses and why this information is pertinent to the 3,600 FAA managers.

I'm asking for the sort of analysis we apply to commercial crashes.

The FAA is responsible for US aviation rules, for auditing US airlines and for auditing foreign CAAs. Are they credible?

West Coast 24th Dec 2009 17:26

Then I suggest you track down an attendee or a spokes person from the FAA.

InvestigateUdom 27th Dec 2009 22:04

I will do that. I'll post if I learn anything interesting.

20driver 28th Dec 2009 02:07

Now if this was a private company
 
The bill would have being twice as larger. $220 per day for someone to attend a conference is cheap. If this was ABC the per diem bill would have being 3x that.

One week get together every 2 years hardly seems excessive. As for what people do in their time off so what. No one is suggesting that drinking went on during the work day.

Typical BS slow news day stuff

20driver


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