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Old 23rd Dec 2009, 12:34
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FAA Managers Party in Atlanta with $5M taxpayer money

Party Time at the FAA; Critics Question $5 Million Gathering - ABC News

I think this story says it all about the FAA. Useless, self-aggrandizing, losers.

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FAA rebuttal

The Associated Press: FAA reminds employees to act with decorum

To be fair: is there someone from the FAA who could explain/justify why FAA managers would need in-person training on this somewhat new ATC contract?
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A number of close friends filtered through the meetings. All said it was worthwhile. The ambush job ABC news did focused in on the after hours party.
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Specifics would be more enlightening than "all said it was worthwhile".

Why was in-person training on the not-quite-new ATC contract appropriate use of taxpayer money?
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A lot of back and forth between the managers and lawyers running the conference and the front line managers from the individual facilities attending. Many "what if" and interpretation of the contract types of questions that required a two way dialogue, something that a power point presentation wouldn't properly support.
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Nigerian type of meeting, not more......
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If you divide 5 mil by 3,600 it's under 1400 each, which is about 5 days of hotel and per diem. Throw in airfare and you have two or three days of meetings. What gets me is that there are 3,600 managers in ATC. Why can't I ever find one?
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Not trying to beat a dead horse, but not getting the info I seek

I'd appreciate someone describing specific questions and responses and why this information is pertinent to the 3,600 FAA managers.

I'm asking for the sort of analysis we apply to commercial crashes.

The FAA is responsible for US aviation rules, for auditing US airlines and for auditing foreign CAAs. Are they credible?
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Then I suggest you track down an attendee or a spokes person from the FAA.
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I will do that. I'll post if I learn anything interesting.
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Now if this was a private company

The bill would have being twice as larger. $220 per day for someone to attend a conference is cheap. If this was ABC the per diem bill would have being 3x that.

One week get together every 2 years hardly seems excessive. As for what people do in their time off so what. No one is suggesting that drinking went on during the work day.

Typical BS slow news day stuff

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