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Old 3rd Jun 2021, 17:28
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United place order for 15 Boom Supersonic jets

Either great forward planning or some free global publicity....
United Airlines today revelated that it will be the first US airline to go supersonic, placing an order with US-based Boom Supersonic for 15 aircraft. The two companies will work together on several operational and sustainability issues with the new aircraft. And if terms are met, United will purchase 15 aircraft, with an option to take 35 more.

The most likely routes, at least initially, would be transatlantic or transpacific. The same issues that Concorde faced with overland supersonic flights and sonic boom remain. The aircraft could fly from Newark to London Heathrow in three and a half and to Frankfurt in four hours. Transpacific, it could operate from San Francisco to Tokyo in just six hours.

...The Boom Overture will be a 65 to 88 seat premium aircraft, capable of reaching Mach 1.7. It will offer a range of up to 4250 NM (4888 miles).
https://simpleflying.com/united-airl...om-supersonic/
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Can't wait for the Pan Am order....
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Can't wait for the Pan Am order....
Didn't United order some (six maybe) Concordes back then as well? At least Concorde was eventually built.
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Can't wait for the Pan Am order....
For a Pan Am order, it has to travel faster than light.
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CONCORDE SST RDERS

Yep, United ordered 6 Concorde.😒
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Buying planes without FAA approval to fly them seems backwards.

Or is Boeing building them?
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The various reports in various media use the terms 'has bought' 'placed orders for' ' will take' but these are all meaningless, at this stage of development. Also they haven't explained about the new fule they must be developing for they keep talking about it.

United are having a massive PR push - is the AGM due? Is it time for Bonus' to be handed out to the Board?
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Looks pretty much like a Concorde clone to me.

Below should be a high res image from the article mentioned above.



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United Airlines today revelated that it will be the first US airline to go supersonic
Wasn't Braniff the first ?

Although their sectors from Washington IAD to Dallas were generally subsonic over land, they ran a couple of these at the start or for publicity with a supersonic segment off the eastern seaboard.
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Can't quite figure out the scale of that picture. Either the windows are 5 feet tall, or the ceiling is so low you'll have to go down the aisle on all fours.

Unless they can figure out how to make them solar powered, those things will never get off the ground with the global warming politics of today.
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Where do they stow the luggage?
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Originally Posted by jimjim1 View Post
Looks pretty much like a Concorde clone to me.
At Mach1.7 versus 2.2 for Concorde, and even less seats than Concorde....

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At Mach1.7 versus 2.2 for Concorde, and even less seats than Concorde....

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......and will be as “successful” as Boeing’s stillborn sonic cruiser !

..and Concorde cruised at Mach 2.0 not 2.2.

Another Aerion

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How can they make up a business case and promise performance data without even having an engine selected?
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CONCORDE SST RDERS

Yep, United ordered 6 Concorde.😒
Only British Airways and Air France ever ordered Concordes. Many other airlines reserved delivery positions, but these were not "orders". I remember back in the early seventies an Independent Television News reporter asked the boss of Braniff, who had just got off an aircraft at Heathrow, when his airline was going to place firm orders. Perhaps a bit jet lagged he drawled "as I understand it they're pretty firm right now". ITN led that evening's News at Ten with the "news" that the first American airline had placed firm orders for Concorde, of course the poor chap was referring to the reserved delivery positions.
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How can they make up a business case and promise performance data without even having an engine selected?
I think the beauty is they don't need to make a case...they got lots of publicity out of this, no commitment to pay a dime as of yet - and it likely will never fly anyway.

Certainly would be cool if it happens but I am slamming this one down in the "nearly zero chance" basket for the moment.
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Assuming Boom fails (which I don't hope but still would not exclude) wouldn't United end up with being associated with a failed project?
Boom has no engine it seems. How about selecting it first and then make promises?
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What follows Boom?
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Originally Posted by Less Hair View Post
Assuming Boom fails (which I don't hope but still would not exclude) wouldn't United end up with being associated with a failed project?
Boom has no engine it seems. How about selecting it first and then make promises?
Not really, United is simply a customer. No one batted an eyelid at any of the customers for Aerion when they predictably went under.
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Old news JAL invested in same reported 2017

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN1DZ1N2
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