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Hi Guys, just a question. I have to do my ATP written test in 1 month. Somebody is saying that faa is changing the written questions. Anyone of you has done it recently? Is it true?
I did the ATM exam about 3 weeks ago and I prepped using the dauntless software.
About half the questions were word for word the same, another 25% very similar and another 25% totally new never saw before. Not a big deal as I prepped by learning how to work out the answers in addition to learning the answers by the dipping method.
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About half the questions were word for word the same, another 25% very similar and another 25% totally new never saw before. Not a big deal as I prepped by learning how to work out the answers in addition to learning the answers by the dipping method.
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sorry guys, last question (I know it may sound silly), but I'm struggling on the question with charts and magnetic variation...where do you find the magnetic variation in a specific location? I mean...on the questions. I spent to days to try to find the info with no result
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No I just have to do the SE ATP (I already have european ATP)....the company has an american registered aircraft and I need it....anyone can tell me where I can find the magnetic varition on the questions (charts?,)....I'm getting crazy!! Sorry I'm a bush pilot
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...or you can also measure it from a compass rose at a VOR. On en-route charts the isogonal looks different to the sectional, it is a thin green line on the en-route chart. Or you can get it from the A/FD (now called chart supplement) where the variation will be in the 'navaids' data for each airport.
I remember it was sometimes hard to find the variation information quickly on the test because you only have a small part of the chart and sometimes they are not very good quality.
I remember it was sometimes hard to find the variation information quickly on the test because you only have a small part of the chart and sometimes they are not very good quality.
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Thanks guys....the problem is that the quality and size of the enroute charts for the exam is so poor that I need 2 pair of glasses...and still, I may find it on same and not find it in others!!! Why the quality is soo poor for the exam??Americans' mistery ....what about the compass rose of the vor? Here unfortunately I cant link any picture
I'm guessing for the ATP you'll be using IFR enroute charts. You're looking for the thin green line running north-south or northeast-southwest. The problem is it isn't on all the chart segments used in the knowledge test supplement. If there is no change in the variation in the area covered by the example you won't see the isogonic lines.
As said, the isogonic lines on the chart are the place to get the correct magnetic variation value. I don't know what one is supposed to do on a test question if the appropriate partial chart is not shown, or the line is not readable.
As an in-depth technical aside: VOR magnetic variation listed with Navaid info in the A/FD (now called "Chart Supplement"), and/or the VOR compass rose depicted on a chart will NOT give you the correct mag. var. number. As the variation changes over time (due to pole drift), they may or may not keep up with re-aligning the VORs, so there may be a lag of several years difference between the degrees shown on an isogonic line and the degrees offset of a VOR. Probably wouldn't make a difference if you're trying to eyeball an angle during flight, but your test answer measured with a plotter could be many degrees off.
In my neighborhood, the most recent isogonic line shows 10 deg. 30 min. E variation. There are 3 VORs nearby, all nearly right on the charted line, and they have variation listed as 10E, 16E, and 13E. Obviously, the 1st has been recently re-aligned, while the 2nd has not been reset for many years. (RIW, BOY, and WRL on the Cheyenne sectional, if anyone is still interested.)
As an in-depth technical aside: VOR magnetic variation listed with Navaid info in the A/FD (now called "Chart Supplement"), and/or the VOR compass rose depicted on a chart will NOT give you the correct mag. var. number. As the variation changes over time (due to pole drift), they may or may not keep up with re-aligning the VORs, so there may be a lag of several years difference between the degrees shown on an isogonic line and the degrees offset of a VOR. Probably wouldn't make a difference if you're trying to eyeball an angle during flight, but your test answer measured with a plotter could be many degrees off.
In my neighborhood, the most recent isogonic line shows 10 deg. 30 min. E variation. There are 3 VORs nearby, all nearly right on the charted line, and they have variation listed as 10E, 16E, and 13E. Obviously, the 1st has been recently re-aligned, while the 2nd has not been reset for many years. (RIW, BOY, and WRL on the Cheyenne sectional, if anyone is still interested.)
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Zondaracer, do you still have time for that ?
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ANother place you can find Magnetic Variation is on the Airport diagram.
Oklahoma City Airport Diagram
The variation is depicted in the lower lefthand corner of the diagram. It may be in a different location on other airport diagrams.
Oklahoma City Airport Diagram
The variation is depicted in the lower lefthand corner of the diagram. It may be in a different location on other airport diagrams.