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Mike Pence's plane skids off runway at LGA

Old 28th Oct 2016, 00:04
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Mike Pence's plane skids off runway at LGA

CNN reporting live right right now. Rainy weather, poor visibility. Passengers report "pretty hard landing" followed by plane skidding off the concrete. Apparently "significant damage to the runway". All on board are ok.
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 00:10
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Mike Pence plane slides off runway at NYC's LaGuardia Airport
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 00:17
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Looks like they went into the EMASS at the end of the runway.
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 00:31
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Sounds like the callsign was Eastern 3452, a 737 landing off the ILS runway 22.

Wind was given as 110 at 9 by the tower controller.

Anybody know who uses 'Eastern' these days?
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 00:44
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Eastern Air Lines 2.0
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Small operator out of MIA, last I knew about 5 B737. Saw a huge billboard at LAX for Eastern. Eastern Air Lines Group, Inc - Airlines in the United States
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Into the EMAS at the end of 22 ?

Republican VP nominee Mike Pence?s plane slides off runway at LaGuardia Airport | New York's PIX11 / WPIX-TV
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Looks like this was the flight, aircraft was N278EA, a B-737-7L9:

Eastern (EA) #3452 ? 27-Oct-2016 ? KFOD - KLGA ? FlightAware
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 01:43
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Les Abend, a CNN aviation analyst, also suggested on CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" that low temperatures in New York could have made the runway near freezing, complicating the landing.
Plane carrying Mike Pence skids off runway - CNNPolitics.com

Looks like the accident occurred around 2340Z.

METAR KLGA 272251Z 09009KT 3SM RA BKN009 OVC015 13/11 A3014 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 4 SLP205 P0014 T01330106 $

METAR KLGA 272351Z 10010G15KT 3SM RA BR OVC010 13/12 A3010 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 4 SLP192 P0032 60061 T01330117 10139 20072 58018 $
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 01:56
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Originally Posted by finfly1 View Post
Live atc 27 Oct 2330-0000 at around 11 minutes. Only heard tower # 1.

Tried to do link and failed. Will delete this when someone who knows what they are doing posts it.
I don't claim to know what I'm doing but see if this link works:

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kl...2016-2330Z.mp3
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Originally Posted by Airbubba View Post
I don't claim to know what I'm doing but see if this link works:

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kl...2016-2330Z.mp3
go to about 13-14 minutes in ..
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Originally Posted by CONSO View Post
go to about 13-14 minutes in ..
Why?

At 10:56 : 'Eastern Stop! Stop! Stop Eastern!'
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 02:17
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Make Eastern Airlines great again!


(Photo AP via The Guardian)
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 03:13
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Originally Posted by Airbubba View Post
Sounds like the callsign was Eastern 3452, a 737 landing off the ILS runway 22.

Wind was given as 110 at 9 by the tower controller.

Anybody know who uses 'Eastern' these days?
Smallish charter company uses B737-800s painted in the final blue strip Eastern livery.
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 03:42
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Thanks, looks like this is a B-737-700.
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 04:37
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Airbubba, it seems you're spot on. According to the Wiki thing, the current version of EAL has one 737-700 with 64 "business" class seats. This is the Trump/Pence plane.

I believe it's N278EA, aka "Spirit of the American Soldier." For spotter value, this aircraft originally started with Maersk Airlines in 1998 and then went through some others in its history.

They have a couple other aircraft in the mix other than the four 162-seat 737-800s as can be seen on the Wiki link above.
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 05:27
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Having "Eastern airlines" and making America great again " in the same sentence /airframe is kind or ironic/sarcastic for those old enough to remember ..
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Wondering about flap position, and stowed reversers...Not speculating on either, but the flaps appear not to be in the 30, (and definitely not in the 40) position.



Stowed reversers could be just that...stowed after stopping and shutting down, (one can hear the engines winding down in one of the live, interior videos). During the evacuation filming one can hear the APU running.

Just some early observations, nothing implied.

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Old 28th Oct 2016, 06:00
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During the evacuation filming one can hear the APU running. Not sure it was on for landing or started later.
On a typical campaign aircraft mission, there are staff and often a press presence. The need for AC power is honored by having it available as continuously as possible. This practice is copied from Presidential and Congressional aircraft procedures.
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