US Regional Headhunting
So the US big 3 offer early retirement to thousands of pilots then find themselves understaffed for the rebound. Solution, clean out the regionals and then cry pilot shortage!
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Cryptic post but I'm guessing it's Piedmont ?:
https://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/14...mpaign=general
https://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/14...mpaign=general
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This bit of news isn't actually "regional" stuff but I can't find the thread for hiring/headhunting above the regional level (thought there was one). This is about a newly announced path from start to Spirit. It's sort of the traditional tickets/CFI/regional/something-above-a-regional path except it appears to eliminiate the regional touch & go:
"In just seven months, graduates of ATP's Airline Career Pilot Program earn their commercial pilot and flight instructor certificates, then through the Spirit Direct Program can advance straight to Spirit as Airbus first officers after 1,500 hours of flight time,"...
https://www.aviationpros.com/educati...tion-of-pilots
https://atpflightschool.com/airlines...-alliance.html
"In just seven months, graduates of ATP's Airline Career Pilot Program earn their commercial pilot and flight instructor certificates, then through the Spirit Direct Program can advance straight to Spirit as Airbus first officers after 1,500 hours of flight time,"...
https://www.aviationpros.com/educati...tion-of-pilots
https://atpflightschool.com/airlines...-alliance.html
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Looks like Skywest is getting a little creative in their headhunting. I don't know enough to pass judgement on the legalities of this move but they must feel they're on solid ground:
"As a charter subsidiary, SkyWest Charter is not covered by the minimum 1500-hour experience rule for right seats, and neither is it bound by the 65-year-old mandatory retirement age. What's better for SkyWest Charter is that the first officers only need a commercial multi-IFR certificate and 250 hours, whereas the captains can keep flying until they fail their medicals."
https://simpleflying.com/skywest-sea...ilot-shortage/
"As a charter subsidiary, SkyWest Charter is not covered by the minimum 1500-hour experience rule for right seats, and neither is it bound by the 65-year-old mandatory retirement age. What's better for SkyWest Charter is that the first officers only need a commercial multi-IFR certificate and 250 hours, whereas the captains can keep flying until they fail their medicals."
https://simpleflying.com/skywest-sea...ilot-shortage/
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Looks like Skywest is getting a little creative in their headhunting. I don't know enough to pass judgement on the legalities of this move but they must feel they're on solid ground:
"As a charter subsidiary, SkyWest Charter is not covered by the minimum 1500-hour experience rule for right seats, and neither is it bound by the 65-year-old mandatory retirement age. What's better for SkyWest Charter is that the first officers only need a commercial multi-IFR certificate and 250 hours, whereas the captains can keep flying until they fail their medicals."
https://simpleflying.com/skywest-sea...ilot-shortage/
"As a charter subsidiary, SkyWest Charter is not covered by the minimum 1500-hour experience rule for right seats, and neither is it bound by the 65-year-old mandatory retirement age. What's better for SkyWest Charter is that the first officers only need a commercial multi-IFR certificate and 250 hours, whereas the captains can keep flying until they fail their medicals."
https://simpleflying.com/skywest-sea...ilot-shortage/
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Spooky 2,
Yes. lots of room for debate on this one.
First of all, no one knows if it'll even get off the ground; It's just a concept at this stage. If it goes, it'll involve small numbers of people.
All else at this point is speculation and theorizing. But that's fun. I can't imagine this concept will run rampant through the regional sector.
This will be entertaining to watch.
Yes. lots of room for debate on this one.
First of all, no one knows if it'll even get off the ground; It's just a concept at this stage. If it goes, it'll involve small numbers of people.
All else at this point is speculation and theorizing. But that's fun. I can't imagine this concept will run rampant through the regional sector.
This will be entertaining to watch.
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Looks like Skywest is gettin' serious about this Part 135 thing. I'll be interested to see what the pilot group looks like:
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...-in-early-4q22
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...-in-early-4q22
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Appears US start-up ULCC carrier, Avelo, is doing some long range planning for pilot supply...with a twist:
"Through its referral network, Alliance Aviation will help bolster Avelo Airlines' numbers by recommending highly qualified foreign First Officer candidates for a possible visa or work sponsorship, employment, and obtaining reciprocal or advanced licensing in the US."
https://simpleflying.com/avelo-airli...e-partnership/
"Through its referral network, Alliance Aviation will help bolster Avelo Airlines' numbers by recommending highly qualified foreign First Officer candidates for a possible visa or work sponsorship, employment, and obtaining reciprocal or advanced licensing in the US."
https://simpleflying.com/avelo-airli...e-partnership/
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This topic was touched upon in another thread but I'll put it here just in case people might not have seen it elsewhere. Breeze Airlines has a form of cadet program helping people get from 1,000 to 1,500 hours and then on to Breeze itself.
There are a couple of unanswered questions but here's the gist. I'm just guessing there's some flight instructing required ? They don't specify outright what "...will work with our partner flight school..." involves.
Breeze isn't going to pay for people to just go drill holes in the sky for 500 hours ?
"Selected participants will work with our partner flight school vendor to exclusively build your last 500 hours towards ATP minimums quickly, with Breeze covering the cost of aircraft and fuel! Breeze Boost is a trial program with limited capacity."
https://startup.jobs/breeze-boost-jo...ays-tm-3567607
There are a couple of unanswered questions but here's the gist. I'm just guessing there's some flight instructing required ? They don't specify outright what "...will work with our partner flight school..." involves.
Breeze isn't going to pay for people to just go drill holes in the sky for 500 hours ?
"Selected participants will work with our partner flight school vendor to exclusively build your last 500 hours towards ATP minimums quickly, with Breeze covering the cost of aircraft and fuel! Breeze Boost is a trial program with limited capacity."
https://startup.jobs/breeze-boost-jo...ays-tm-3567607
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I've received a message from a lawyer on linkedin with the question if I'd be interested in getting a green card to work for Envoy, does anyone know if this is even legit?
I've never considered working in the US since it's a bit, in all possible ways to interpret this, far from home. I've been flying 737's in the EASA world for about 4 years now, so not even sure if it's worth the hassle going through all hoops getting an FAA license, new type rating, visa/green card, relocating and such to fly for a regional in the US. Any thoughts?
I've never considered working in the US since it's a bit, in all possible ways to interpret this, far from home. I've been flying 737's in the EASA world for about 4 years now, so not even sure if it's worth the hassle going through all hoops getting an FAA license, new type rating, visa/green card, relocating and such to fly for a regional in the US. Any thoughts?
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Ladies and Gents
I just received this:Thank you for your interest in Breeze Airways and the Breeze Airways First Officer position.
This note is to advise you that we are not able to process your application because you have indicated you need visa sponsorship in order to work in the U.S. Due to the large number of applicants we have received, we are currently only sponsoring E-3 visas for Australian Nationals.
We may offer visa sponsorship again in the future, so please check periodically for any updates.
regards
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I just received this:Thank you for your interest in Breeze Airways and the Breeze Airways First Officer position.
This note is to advise you that we are not able to process your application because you have indicated you need visa sponsorship in order to work in the U.S. Due to the large number of applicants we have received, we are currently only sponsoring E-3 visas for Australian Nationals.
We may offer visa sponsorship again in the future, so please check periodically for any updates.
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I've received a message from a lawyer on linkedin with the question if I'd be interested in getting a green card to work for Envoy, does anyone know if this is even legit?
I've never considered working in the US since it's a bit, in all possible ways to interpret this, far from home. I've been flying 737's in the EASA world for about 4 years now, so not even sure if it's worth the hassle going through all hoops getting an FAA license, new type rating, visa/green card, relocating and such to fly for a regional in the US. Any thoughts?
I've never considered working in the US since it's a bit, in all possible ways to interpret this, far from home. I've been flying 737's in the EASA world for about 4 years now, so not even sure if it's worth the hassle going through all hoops getting an FAA license, new type rating, visa/green card, relocating and such to fly for a regional in the US. Any thoughts?
To the best of my knowledge it is necessary to have 10 years of professional flying. Likely your linkedin mentions more than just 4 years of 737.
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Did the lawyer mentioned how much he would charge to take care of the process ? (probably he forgot ... have heard that it is around 10k)
To the best of my knowledge it is necessary to have 10 years of professional flying. Likely your linkedin mentions more that just 4 years of 737.
To the best of my knowledge it is necessary to have 10 years of professional flying. Likely your linkedin mentions more that just 4 years of 737.
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This is a rather bold move for Mesas Airlines:
https://worldairlinenews.com/2022/09...er-2-aircraft/
https://worldairlinenews.com/2022/09...er-2-aircraft/
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This from Ravn. Not sure what it means. I think at one point they said they'd take E3s but this is the latest...for whatever it means:
"Please note: A work visa is required if you do not have a US passport. Rishworth will advise you and support you through the visa application process."
https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/17502.html
"Please note: A work visa is required if you do not have a US passport. Rishworth will advise you and support you through the visa application process."
https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/17502.html
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I’m wondering if anyone can answer -
If I arrive in the states with 2000TT, 1500 in the 737, FAA ATP in hand with a H4 visa and employment authorisation document;
Will airlines be able to legally employ me?
I’m happy to fly anything, but would I be starting with a regional with this kind or experience?
If I arrive in the states with 2000TT, 1500 in the 737, FAA ATP in hand with a H4 visa and employment authorisation document;
Will airlines be able to legally employ me?
I’m happy to fly anything, but would I be starting with a regional with this kind or experience?
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MaverickPrime,
I know nothing about visa issues but suspect a regional would be your best option. Your qualifications certainly appear to fit what they want and then some. All the regional pilot hiring websites have contact info for their recruiters/HR people. I'd suggest contacting every one of them and ask your questions. Don't be fussy...contact every one of them...even the bad ones. Be prepared to briefly explain the conditions/limitations of the H4 visa as they may not be familiar enough to see if your visa status might fit in their operation.
Good luck in your hunt.
I know nothing about visa issues but suspect a regional would be your best option. Your qualifications certainly appear to fit what they want and then some. All the regional pilot hiring websites have contact info for their recruiters/HR people. I'd suggest contacting every one of them and ask your questions. Don't be fussy...contact every one of them...even the bad ones. Be prepared to briefly explain the conditions/limitations of the H4 visa as they may not be familiar enough to see if your visa status might fit in their operation.
Good luck in your hunt.