ASEL/AMEL Commercial Requirments

[ilive2fl]

I have done all of my AMEL requirements, but I never took the check ride. These requirements are listed in part 61.

My question is do all those AMEL requirements I have completed, apply towards my ASEL commercial requirements? cross country flights, etc.

Thank you!

[zondaracer]

If you want to do your ASEL as your initial commercial rating then no, you don't meet the requirements. If you do the AMEL first and then do the ASEL as an add-on rating then no problem.

Take a look at FAR 61.63 (c)

(c) Additional aircraft class rating. A person who applies for an additional class rating on a pilot certificate:

(1) Must have a logbook or training record endorsement from an authorized instructor attesting that the person was found competent in the appropriate aeronautical knowledge areas and proficient in the appropriate areas of operation.

(2) Must pass the practical test.

(3) Need not meet the specified training time requirements prescribed by this part that apply to the pilot certificate for the aircraft class rating sought; unless, the person only holds a lighter-than-air category rating with a balloon class rating and is seeking an airship class rating, then that person must receive the specified training time requirements and possess the appropriate aeronautical experience.

(4) Need not take an additional knowledge test, provided the applicant holds an airplane, rotorcraft, powered-lift, weight-shift-control aircraft, powered parachute, or airship rating at that pilot certificate level.

[zondaracer]

And take a look at FAR 61.129 for initial issue requirements.

(a) For an airplane single-engine rating. Except as provided in paragraph (i) of this section, a person who applies for a commercial pilot certificate with an airplane category and single-engine class rating must log at least 250 hours of flight time as a pilot that consists of at least:

(1) 100 hours in powered aircraft, of which 50 hours must be in airplanes.

(2) 100 hours of pilot-in-command flight time, which includes at least—

(i) 50 hours in airplanes; and

(ii) 50 hours in cross-country flight of which at least 10 hours must be in airplanes.

(3) 20 hours of training on the areas of operation listed in §61.127(b)(1) of this part that includes at least—

(i) Ten hours of instrument training using a view-limiting device including attitude instrument flying, partial panel skills, recovery from unusual flight attitudes, and intercepting and tracking navigational systems. Five hours of the 10 hours required on instrument training must be in a single engine airplane;

(ii) 10 hours of training in an airplane that has a retractable landing gear, flaps, and a controllable pitch propeller, or is turbine-powered, or for an applicant seeking a single-engine seaplane rating, 10 hours of training in a seaplane that has flaps and a controllable pitch propeller;

(iii) One 2-hour cross country flight in a single engine airplane in daytime conditions that consists of a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure;

(iv) One 2-hour cross country flight in a single engine airplane in nighttime conditions that consists of a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and

(v) Three hours in a single-engine airplane with an authorized instructor in preparation for the practical test within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.

(4) Ten hours of solo flight time in a single engine airplane or 10 hours of flight time performing the duties of pilot in command in a single engine airplane with an authorized instructor on board (either of which may be credited towards the flight time requirement under paragraph (a)(2) of this section), on the areas of operation listed under §61.127(b)(1) that include—

(i) One cross-country flight of not less than 300 nautical miles total distance, with landings at a minimum of three points, one of which is a straight-line distance of at least 250 nautical miles from the original departure point. However, if this requirement is being met in Hawaii, the longest segment need only have a straight-line distance of at least 150 nautical miles; and

(ii) 5 hours in night VFR conditions with 10 takeoffs and 10 landings (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an airport with an operating control tower.

[340drvr]

You'd think that with the amount of time spent during ME training or checkride with one engine inop, the SE part would just be automatic!
61.129 lists the aeronautical experience requirements, and specifically delineates where "an airplane" or "single engine airplane" is required. Like 5 of the 10 hours of complex time could be either, but the x-cntry and solo parts need to be SE.
If you already have a Commercial with AMEL, then you're looking at 61.63(c) for Additional class rating, which basically says you don't need to repeat training or knowledge test just for an add-on like ASEL. The Practical Test Standards has a matrix table (somewhere in the front of the booklet) that shows what tasks would be required on the checkride for an add-on.
If I understand your situation correctly, it would probably be best to take the checkride in a multi-engine, then as a holder of a Commercial AMEL, the addition of SE will be relatively easy, and would require the least amount of additional aircraft time and training. (That would certainly be the way I'd do it.)
Hope this helps, good luck.

Edit: OOps!, zondaracer beat me to the post while I was typing!