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Old 5th Sep 2014, 18:09
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NORAD Aircraft following Unresponsive Aircraft...

NORAD F-15's following TBM700.

The single-engine plane was flying from Rochester, New York, to Naples, Florida, officials said. “The plane’s occupants did not respond to attempts to communicate," the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) said this morning.

U.S. and Cuban aviation authorities are now communicating in an effort to assure that happens, she said. Cuba is tracking the plane on radar.

There are other passengers aboard, and the fog on the aircraft’s windows suggests all aboard are unconscious, NORAD said. It's unclear how much fuel is on board.

The Socata TBM700 aircraft is flying at an altitude of 25,000 feet and has not been responding to radio calls since 10 am ET, according to a statement from the Federal Aviation Administration.
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 18:12
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N900KN (TBM-900) no contact

TBM-900 was flying from ROC to APF. And kept going. Last contact I saw on FLightradar24 from the plane was just south of Cuba near Bartolome Maso, Cuba. It was over water.

Stay tuned.
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 18:16
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thanks for starting this thread


fuel exhaustion is nearly now. one report that it is falling now


more later
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Air Force tracking unresponsive flight over the Atlantic

then left it to cuban airforce, the plane has overflown Cuba and is nearing Jamaica

Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker!
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 18:22
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Sad to say it looks like pilot incapacitation.
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 18:27
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Angry

Its still at FL250, 153kts hasn't made a turn in 2 hours they say, very sad
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 18:30
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seems it crashed some 15 miles north of Jamaica, poor chaps...
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 18:49
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seems it crashed some 15 miles north of Jamaica,
Appears that it has. Sad.

It is owned by Buckingham Properties, and the CEO is a pilot. The company website is currently down, most likely on purpose would be my guesss.
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 19:00
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Buckingham's website is not down - easily accessible to me. Might be slow to some as folks flock to the site because of today's news.
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 19:02
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Unresponsive Plane Shares Address Buckingham Properties - Business Insider
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 19:05
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Buckingham's website is not down - easily accessible to me. Might be slow to some as folks flock to the site because of today's news.
Could be, I only tried it once, to try more seemed a bit ghoulish to me.
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 19:26
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when the engine quits due ot fuel exhaustion, would the autopilot remain engaged or trip off?
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 19:35
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What happens will depend on the autopilot: power source (electric, hydraulic), mode (altitude hold, speed hold), etc.

If all electric, the AP will try to hold its settings until the battery dies or the other components stop feeding it inputs. However, if altitude has priority over airspeed, it may stall the airplane as it tries to hold altitude. OTOH, if minimum speed has priority over altitude, it might glide on course until it hits the ground.
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 19:47
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From another Pilot's website;

From the Jamaican-Gleaner






UPDATE: JDF dispatches rescue team to plane crash site

Published: Friday September 5, 2014 | 2:05 pm

KINGSTON, Jamaica:
The Jamaica Defence Force (JDF) has dispatched two aircraft to the site 14 miles North East of Port Antonio, Portland where a plane crashed a short while ago.

The JDF says a dive team is among the responders.

It's understood that two people were aboard the Socata TBM700, a high performance single-engine turboprop.

In the meantime, the United States has dispatched a P3 Orion surveillance aircraft to the site.

Air traffic controllers were last able to contact the pilot at 10 a.m.

The aircraft left Rochester, New York this morning and was scheduled to land in Naples, Florida.

It drew the attention of US authorities when it failed to land.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) had been trying to make contact with the aircraft since 10 o'clock this morning.

It was believed to be flying on autopilot.

Two US F15 fighter jets were trailing the plane but broke off before it entered Cuban airspace.
Port Antonio is on the north coast, so the aircraft should be in the water.
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 20:03
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Would this plane have had a pressurized cabin?
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 20:07
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Would this plane have had a pressurized cabin?
Yes.................................
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 20:16
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Yes, it would, but by the looks of it, not this time. Before landing the most important words are, "lever down, three greens", now there may be other stuff like spoilers ect. When leaving ten thousand on the way up an even more important check is, "out of ten thousand for {insert cleared altitude} presurization normal". This is the last of a rash of these incidents over this side of the pond since presurized GA aircraft have become comonplace.
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 20:24
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Coming in to MIA early this afternoon, the Interceptors could be heard on the radio telling the pilot and his wife to put their oxygen masks on.
We were coming up on Grand Bahama Island at the time.
Very sad.
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 20:46
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BBC report says

An unresponsive private plane has crashed in the sea off Jamaica, officials on the island have said.
Major Basil Jarrett of the Jamaican Defence Force said the plane went down about 14 miles (22 kilometres) north-east of Port Antonio.
Jamaican and US Coast Guard planes and ships are on their way to the scene
The two passengers on board have been named as Larry and Jane Glazer from Rochester, New York, officials have said.
The plane, a Socata TBM-700, took off from Rochester at 08:26 (12:26 GMT) on route to Naples, Florida.
The US had scrambled two fighter jets to investigate why the plane failed to respond to air traffic control from 10:00 local time (14:00 GMT).
A North American air defence (Norad) spokesman said it was not possible for the jet fighter pilots to see inside the plane before it crashed as the windows were frosted or fogged over.
A tweet from Norad suggested the pilot or pilots could be unresponsive due to "possible hypoxia".
A spokesman said the jets were launched at 11:30 local time (15:30 GMT).
The plane was flying at an altitude of 25,000 feet southbound over the Caribbean Sea, approaching the north east point of Jamaica, when it went off radar.
Earlier, the US Federal Aviation Administration said it has co-operated with Cuba air traffic control in monitoring the plane, despite the countries not having full diplomatic relations for more than half a century
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Old 5th Sep 2014, 20:59
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According to reports, Larry Glazer was hardly a passenger but the owner and pilot of this airplane. He also was the president of the TBM Owners Society.
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