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Old 1st Dec 2010, 04:53
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American Airlines Boeing 737 out of Dallas ran off the runway at Montreal

The American Airlines Boeing 737 out of Dallas ran off the runway at Trudeau Airport around 8 p.m. Tuesday night.

A total of 111 passengers were on board the plane, but no one was injured.

Montreal traveller Paul Lavallee said the plane was shaking and he could see mud flying up to the sides of the plane after it rolled into the grass.

Beaconsfield resident Annemarie Rogers said no one fell out of their seats, but passengers had to brace themselves by holding on to the seats in front of them.

The plane remained on the runway with passengers inside until about 9:50 p.m.

The airplane was not seriously damaged.

The cause of the incident is unknown, said Aeroports de Montreal spokesperson Anne Marcotte.

The Transportation Safety Board of Canada is investigating.

CTV Montreal - Airplane runs off Trudeau runway - CTV News
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So mud was flying as it "rolled into the grass", but the "plane remained on the runway"... interesting.
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Which may indicate that one wheelset departed the side of the runway.

Actually, it was a nose gear off the end of the runway, main gears stayed on the tarmac.

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Why were the pax kept on for nearly 2 hours afterwards?
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Beaconsfield resident Annemarie Rogers said no one fell out of their seats
- good to hear they were strapped in
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So mud was flying as it "rolled into the grass", but the "plane remained on the runway"... interesting.
Grass runways being all the rage these days...apparently.
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AA802 runway excursion

I won't speculate on the cause.

Sorry about the lousy picture quality.



Still there at the time of this posting.

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Would never have happened at Mirabel!

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hmmm, another 737NG over run.

but seriously...land, stop like you mean it
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Freezing rain on the forecast? Was the runway contaminated?
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Weather not that special.

It seems to have done an AF (747) nosewheel into the grass (see last yr). Coincidently on the same runway but with a south turn instead of north.
I don't know if they had a nosewheel failure like the AF (747).

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Cyul 010100z 14016kt 6sm -ra Br Sct010 Bkn022 Ovc050 07/06 A3010 Rmk Sf4sc2sc2
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Heat sink

Due a series of continuing incidents and accidents, unabated it appears, AA is the subject of considerable FAA scrutiny, lots of impromptu inspector appearances in those cockpits these days.

Just have to add this one to the chalkboard I guess, systemic issues that have worked their way into the training department are tough to root out, especially for a carrier of that size.

All boils down to people though, individual people, their methods and opinions, those agendas need to be identified and dealt with. Somewhat smartly I'd venture to say.
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Wow, I guess AA could use your talent to get things right.
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I rest my case.
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... systemic issues that have worked their way into the training department are tough to root out, especially for a carrier of that size.
Yes, and don't expect these issues to just 'go away' anytime soon.
From the maintenance hangar (many violations and FAA fines) to the flight ops department (many incidents and accidents) AA is but a shadow of its former self...competancy-wise.
I suspect that if they were from a foreign country, they would be rated category two.
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Originally Posted by alph2z
Weather not that special.

I don't know if they had a nosewheel failure like the AF (747).
The only failure on that AF 747 was a failure to operate the nosewheel tiller properly.

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-re...1/a08q0171.pdf
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I won't speculate on the cause.
Why not?
It was clearly caused by a lack of friction.

Factors leading up to that lack of friction remain to be determined.
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its been awhile since I've been to montreal (this is YUL right?). Isn't the runway ungrooved, and not well crowned?

Let's just be glad the nosewheel went off and not the whole darn plane.

I remember the last -800 that went off the end...we all spoke of the higher speed on landing to avoid tail strike???
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No one enjoys getting ramped. Is it true that the FAA is coming down on AA? From the picture it looks like the 37 went off the side of the runway.
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Thanks punkalouver for the link to the report,

I didn't expect a hand on the tiller to be the cause. I had seen that plane on left base while I was BBQ'ing supper.
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