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FAA english endorsment
I just did an address change with the FAA on my license.
Was told a few days ago I also needed a English endorsement by my overseas company, Why this is needed is beyond me.
From what I read when the new license is issued reflecting the address change the endorsement for English will be added automatically.
Has anyone had any luck with this.
Really strange for USA ex pats to have this done.
Thanks in advance.
Was told a few days ago I also needed a English endorsement by my overseas company, Why this is needed is beyond me.
From what I read when the new license is issued reflecting the address change the endorsement for English will be added automatically.
Has anyone had any luck with this.
Really strange for USA ex pats to have this done.
Thanks in advance.
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I recently did an address change online with the FAA and my new ATPL came with the English proficient endorsement automatically. I didn't have to do a thing except pay the $2 for the addr change.
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It means that, per the FAA, you meet the language proficiency requirements of ICAO level 4 (Operational).
There's no other testing involved, as the FAA deems their existing English language licensing requirement as meeting or exceeding level 4.
Whether it's accepted by your home CAA as proof of proficiency is up to them.
There's no other testing involved, as the FAA deems their existing English language licensing requirement as meeting or exceeding level 4.
Whether it's accepted by your home CAA as proof of proficiency is up to them.
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US had an exemption for the "English Proficient" requirement for years. ICAO rules are the same for all ICAO countries and the US is now simply complying with those rules. Eventually anyone who wants to make an international flight will need that endorsement on his/her license, no matter what country the license was issued in.
A total non-event; simply apply for a renewal and your new FAA license will arrive with the endorsement without you having to take any additional tests.
Of course, you better hurry... In the next few years the license might say "Press 1 for English” and “Apriete 2 para español”
A total non-event; simply apply for a renewal and your new FAA license will arrive with the endorsement without you having to take any additional tests.
Of course, you better hurry... In the next few years the license might say "Press 1 for English” and “Apriete 2 para español”
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"...I didn't have to do a thing except pay the $2 for the addr change."
Flyboy83 - if your address changed you didn't have to pay the $2... You pay the $2 only if you need a new license and there were no changes made (a.k.a. you lost it
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Flyboy83 - if your address changed you didn't have to pay the $2... You pay the $2 only if you need a new license and there were no changes made (a.k.a. you lost it
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Based on a foreign license
i have the private pilot based on my comercial pilot foreign license issued al 2007, i did try to request a new one with the famous English proficiency endorsement online by it seems that i need to go to the FSDO, does anyone knows about this.....?
And by the way if i get the endorsement does anyone knows if it does have an expiration date.......??
tks
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And by the way if i get the endorsement does anyone knows if it does have an expiration date.......??
tks
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"I have the private pilot based on my comercial pilot foreign license issued al 2007, i did try to request a new one with the famous English proficiency endorsement online by it seems that i need to go to the FSDO, does anyone knows about this.....?"
If you'd worked for an airline the training department would help you to fill out the paper work, etc. Since you're "on your own" and furtermore your US license is based on a foreign license you'll have to fo to the nearest FSDO where they'll issue it to you in no time. They'll probably "chit-chat" with you just to make sure you are you if it makes sense.
"And by the way if i get the endorsement does anyone knows if it does have an expiration date.......??"
The English prof is a one time thing only. Then it does not expire but the privileges of using it do without a valid medical. In other words works like it always did.
If you're not in the US (which I think is your case) you can follow those steps. Not sure where the nearest South American IFO (international field office) is.
Now that I think about it I'm not sure all this applies to you as you want to renew and not apply for a new license. Best call them to find out.
Here's FAA's headquarters:
Oklahoma City FSDO Contact the Office
PS. I'm not working for the FAA but I did sleep at Holiday Inn last night (and I googled it)
..........
If you don’t plan to be in the US
1. Contact the CAA and ask them to verify your license to the NewYork IFO FAA Field Service District Office.
2. Down load the form from the web http://registry.faa.gov/docs/verify61-75.pdf. Fill it in (designating the "New York IFO" as the issuing Field Office) and send it to:
FAA***
Airmen Certification Branch,
AFS-760***
PO Box 25082***
Oklahoma City
OK 73125-0082
USA
who will check the license with the issuing authority and send you a letter within 3-4 weeks verifying the authenticity of his or her national license. You then have 6 months to get the license, via step 3 (or by going to the New York IFO)
3. Call the New York FAA International Field Office on +1 718 553 0986 and talk to an Operations Inspector. You can then arrange to meet a traveling FAA Ops Inspector on his or her next visit to the IFO nearest you (i.e. London, Frankfurt or Brussels). Take the letter, your passport (to prove identification), logbook (to prove hours requirements) and Medical Certificate.
http://www.atsx91.dsl.pipex.com/Docu...O%20Pilots.doc
If you'd worked for an airline the training department would help you to fill out the paper work, etc. Since you're "on your own" and furtermore your US license is based on a foreign license you'll have to fo to the nearest FSDO where they'll issue it to you in no time. They'll probably "chit-chat" with you just to make sure you are you if it makes sense.
"And by the way if i get the endorsement does anyone knows if it does have an expiration date.......??"
The English prof is a one time thing only. Then it does not expire but the privileges of using it do without a valid medical. In other words works like it always did.
If you're not in the US (which I think is your case) you can follow those steps. Not sure where the nearest South American IFO (international field office) is.
Now that I think about it I'm not sure all this applies to you as you want to renew and not apply for a new license. Best call them to find out.
Here's FAA's headquarters:
Oklahoma City FSDO Contact the Office
PS. I'm not working for the FAA but I did sleep at Holiday Inn last night (and I googled it
) ..........
If you don’t plan to be in the US
1. Contact the CAA and ask them to verify your license to the NewYork IFO FAA Field Service District Office.
2. Down load the form from the web http://registry.faa.gov/docs/verify61-75.pdf. Fill it in (designating the "New York IFO" as the issuing Field Office) and send it to:
FAA***
Airmen Certification Branch,
AFS-760***
PO Box 25082***
Oklahoma City
OK 73125-0082
USA
who will check the license with the issuing authority and send you a letter within 3-4 weeks verifying the authenticity of his or her national license. You then have 6 months to get the license, via step 3 (or by going to the New York IFO)
3. Call the New York FAA International Field Office on +1 718 553 0986 and talk to an Operations Inspector. You can then arrange to meet a traveling FAA Ops Inspector on his or her next visit to the IFO nearest you (i.e. London, Frankfurt or Brussels). Take the letter, your passport (to prove identification), logbook (to prove hours requirements) and Medical Certificate.
http://www.atsx91.dsl.pipex.com/Docu...O%20Pilots.doc
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Quote - (It means that, per the FAA, you meet the language proficiency requirements of ICAO level 4 (Operational).
There's no other testing involved, as the FAA deems their existing English language licensing requirement as meeting or exceeding level 4.
Whether it's accepted by your home CAA as proof of proficiency is up to them.)
Holding a level 4 for now will get you by, until a Level 6 is required in a couple of years and then some sort of testing maybe required if you still hold a level 4. If your hold a UK CAA licence, I got the level 6 by completing some paperwork and sent it in. (download Form SRG 1199 from the UKCAA).
There's no other testing involved, as the FAA deems their existing English language licensing requirement as meeting or exceeding level 4.
Whether it's accepted by your home CAA as proof of proficiency is up to them.)
Holding a level 4 for now will get you by, until a Level 6 is required in a couple of years and then some sort of testing maybe required if you still hold a level 4. If your hold a UK CAA licence, I got the level 6 by completing some paperwork and sent it in. (download Form SRG 1199 from the UKCAA).
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My Examiner in Houston told me it would turn into an arguement if I said I could speak English!
I guess tha's what you get from a guy who introduced me to his, wife, sister and dog and they happened to be the same person...
Only joking sports fans, that was my joke of the day.
SP
I guess tha's what you get from a guy who introduced me to his, wife, sister and dog and they happened to be the same person...
Only joking sports fans, that was my joke of the day.
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FAA English Proficiency
Originally Posted by Oyindo
It means that, per the FAA, you meet the language proficiency requirements of ICAO level 4 (Operational).
There's no other testing involved, as the FAA deems their existing English language licensing requirement as meeting or exceeding level 4.
There's no other testing involved, as the FAA deems their existing English language licensing requirement as meeting or exceeding level 4.
Originally Posted by Oyindo
Language Proficiency: English = Level 4
I think I read it somewhere in this forum how to upgrade to level 6, but I just could not recall.
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VIE Ramp Check
Had a very detailed ramp check in VIE today and the inspector was adamant that as of next year any licence without a poficiency level on it will be "unacceptable" (his word.) Knowing the glacial pace of FAA movement I doubt they will be putting a level with the English Proficient endorsement on our licence any time soon. I guess they (FAA) will have to wield the big stick to get the EU and other to accept our licences as is for at least a while.
Anybody else remember the days when the flying was the hard part?
Anybody else remember the days when the flying was the hard part?
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FAA is following ICAO rules. English proficient on the FAA license is all you'll ever see. The different levels was created for non-English speaking countries...
LanFranc - the deadline was March (I think?) of last year. Unless you've been hiding under a rock somewhere all US licenses should have the endorsement by now... At least at the major airlines they do...
LanFranc - the deadline was March (I think?) of last year. Unless you've been hiding under a rock somewhere all US licenses should have the endorsement by now... At least at the major airlines they do...
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There isn't a rock big enough to hide under in an airplane in international operations. I have had the 'English Proficient' endorsement for quite some time. Since you are not english proficient apparently, I'll try to explain further. The FAA licence doesn't have a level number. 'English proficient level 4' is required for international operations. The inspector in Vienna was telling me that 'English Proficient' BY ITSELF will no longer be acceptable next year. That is to say, an acceptable licence will have to have level 4, or above, actually on the licence.
I don't know why he was giving me a hard time over it. Its not like as pilots we have any contol over how regulating agencies format their licences. The porpose of my post was two fold:
1. Has anyone else had such an encounter in international ops?
2. Anyone heard of any pending changes to include a level number on the licence?
There isn't a rock big enough to hide under in an airplane in international operations. I have had the 'English Proficient' endorsement for quite some time. Since you are not english proficient apparently, I'll try to explain further. The FAA licence doesn't have a level number. 'English proficient level 4' is required for international operations. The inspector in Vienna was telling me that 'English Proficient' BY ITSELF will no longer be acceptable next year. That is to say, an acceptable licence will have to have level 4, or above, actually on the licence.
I don't know why he was giving me a hard time over it. Its not like as pilots we have any contol over how regulating agencies format their licences. The porpose of my post was two fold:
1. Has anyone else had such an encounter in international ops?
2. Anyone heard of any pending changes to include a level number on the licence?