23rd 60 or 65?
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New York City
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ALPA is a toothless tiger and becomes more irrelevant on a daily basis. Powerful? Hah! What have they accomplished in the last 25 years or more to improve, or even maintain, their members' working conditions?
Pensions? Gone!
Work rules? Trashed!
Compensation? Racing to the bottom as we speak.
Add to this the decades of demeaning treatment at the hands of every tin-badge "aviation security" official.
I have been in this business for over 25 years and ALPA has ranted consistently at the antiquated, and dangerous, crew rest rules. There has been one major change in that 25 year period, and it was to make them WORSE for the pilots and more profitable for the companies. And your "powerful lobby" ALPA has been consistently unable to do ANYTHING whatsoever about it other than howl at the moon.
Powerful lobby? What a joke!
Age 65 will come as a result of politics, and the fact that the U.S. government will be unable to justify the discrimination against its own citizens vis-a-vis foreign airline pilots over 60 flying into U.S. airports on a daily basis.
The FAA is set to review this rule yet again, and issue its decision in the spring. If the FAA does not change the policy, look for Congress to do it for them.
Pensions? Gone!
Work rules? Trashed!
Compensation? Racing to the bottom as we speak.
Add to this the decades of demeaning treatment at the hands of every tin-badge "aviation security" official.
I have been in this business for over 25 years and ALPA has ranted consistently at the antiquated, and dangerous, crew rest rules. There has been one major change in that 25 year period, and it was to make them WORSE for the pilots and more profitable for the companies. And your "powerful lobby" ALPA has been consistently unable to do ANYTHING whatsoever about it other than howl at the moon.
Powerful lobby? What a joke!
Age 65 will come as a result of politics, and the fact that the U.S. government will be unable to justify the discrimination against its own citizens vis-a-vis foreign airline pilots over 60 flying into U.S. airports on a daily basis.
The FAA is set to review this rule yet again, and issue its decision in the spring. If the FAA does not change the policy, look for Congress to do it for them.
I agree with your sentiments and I think the age 60 is cr@p, where I fly it is 63 now and going to be 65 when the rules change, so the FAA can't stop us from flying into the US. But ALPA is running a big campaign to throw the old guys out of the cockpit so that they can get promotions. That goes against their previous policy that once you were fit and healthy you could fly to the recent one of "lets get our commands". The US policy does not affect me one bit because I'm flying overseas.
