NWA (T.A.) hourly pay cut-how much?
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NWA (T.A.) hourly pay cut-how much?
Is anyone aware of exactly how much the hourly pay cut is, if any? Their interim agreement from about two months ago already accepted a net reduction of 38% less per hour, not including sick leave loss of pay, and other areas.
One rumour earlier tonight from a pilot with NWA (he lives east of Memphis) is that to save money, the bottom two hundred pilots will get laid off.
He had not yet checked the MEC website, and had no factual information.
One rumour earlier tonight from a pilot with NWA (he lives east of Memphis) is that to save money, the bottom two hundred pilots will get laid off.
He had not yet checked the MEC website, and had no factual information.
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NWA Pay scale, new contract proposal:
I stand corrected.... 15% pay cut in 2004, plus 23.9% in new contract proposal. However, proposal contains an abominal assortment of minor cost-cutting items that will actually make the "Job" more difficult, rather than save a great deal of money.
This proposal was forced on to the NWA ALPA group through the sheer threat of liquidation of the Airline. The pilots, in a previous agreement, allowed their future Pension contributions to cease and be capped at 50% of the former Pension allowed to the Retiree's.
The contract allows for some Company funded advances to the 401K accounts and a stake in the re-emerging Airline.
If the former Retiree's pensions are allowed to stand at 60% of their highest 12 months of pay, some Retired Whale Capt's will be receiving Pensions that are more than a current B757 Capt. Or, from a colorful prospective, the NWA Pilots that retire under the new Agreement will be subsidizing the former retiree's pension through their own paycuts and reduction in Pension benefits.
But the really BIG hammer....no more crewmeals.
I stand corrected.... 15% pay cut in 2004, plus 23.9% in new contract proposal. However, proposal contains an abominal assortment of minor cost-cutting items that will actually make the "Job" more difficult, rather than save a great deal of money.
This proposal was forced on to the NWA ALPA group through the sheer threat of liquidation of the Airline. The pilots, in a previous agreement, allowed their future Pension contributions to cease and be capped at 50% of the former Pension allowed to the Retiree's.
The contract allows for some Company funded advances to the 401K accounts and a stake in the re-emerging Airline.
If the former Retiree's pensions are allowed to stand at 60% of their highest 12 months of pay, some Retired Whale Capt's will be receiving Pensions that are more than a current B757 Capt. Or, from a colorful prospective, the NWA Pilots that retire under the new Agreement will be subsidizing the former retiree's pension through their own paycuts and reduction in Pension benefits.
But the really BIG hammer....no more crewmeals.
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True, long ago under CEO Donald Nyrop, "his" Northwest company provoked unions into strikes.
Here is why: the airlines all contributed money to the emergency fund called the "Mutual Aid Pact".
Well, good old Nyrop was able to make more money during a strike than he could under normal airline operations, by pulling lots of money out of the fund; for this reason, such a cynical airline "leader" preferred a strike.
Because of this financial abuse, the other airlines dissolved the "Mutual Aid Pact". Northwest Orient reportedly had the best debt/equity ration of any US airline. Why was their cynical treatment of labor considered necessary?
My friend also told me that their Tentative Agreement would allow the first 90 Embraer 190s etc, to go to a new subsidiary company, "S-Jet". But, for example, if NWA parked large numbers of DC-9s, there would be no replacement, unless NWA decided to buy dozens more than 90 EMB-190s to replace the flying.
If not, then about 1200 DC-9 pilots could, in theory (legally), be laid off! They already have about 600 pilots laid off. Only the number of Emb-190s etc ABOVE those first 90 aircraft, would be flown by mainline NWA pilots. Maybe this info. is not accurate. Their NWA CFO Cohen came from USAirways. After USAirways pilots signed their contract, their company STILL dissolved their retirement. So much for bargaining strategies, but maybe the guy has the wrong interpretation.
Any contradictions based on facts are welcome.
Here is why: the airlines all contributed money to the emergency fund called the "Mutual Aid Pact".
Well, good old Nyrop was able to make more money during a strike than he could under normal airline operations, by pulling lots of money out of the fund; for this reason, such a cynical airline "leader" preferred a strike.
Because of this financial abuse, the other airlines dissolved the "Mutual Aid Pact". Northwest Orient reportedly had the best debt/equity ration of any US airline. Why was their cynical treatment of labor considered necessary?
My friend also told me that their Tentative Agreement would allow the first 90 Embraer 190s etc, to go to a new subsidiary company, "S-Jet". But, for example, if NWA parked large numbers of DC-9s, there would be no replacement, unless NWA decided to buy dozens more than 90 EMB-190s to replace the flying.
If not, then about 1200 DC-9 pilots could, in theory (legally), be laid off! They already have about 600 pilots laid off. Only the number of Emb-190s etc ABOVE those first 90 aircraft, would be flown by mainline NWA pilots. Maybe this info. is not accurate. Their NWA CFO Cohen came from USAirways. After USAirways pilots signed their contract, their company STILL dissolved their retirement. So much for bargaining strategies, but maybe the guy has the wrong interpretation.
Any contradictions based on facts are welcome.
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Wish we had some facts. The union is still trying to figure out what the contract says and disseminate it to the needy! Interesting points about Nyrop, but at least everything WAS paid for. Will see soon about the facts!
Originally Posted by Ignition Override
True, long ago under CEO Donald Nyrop, "his" Northwest company provoked unions into strikes.
Here is why: the airlines all contributed money to the emergency fund called the "Mutual Aid Pact".
Well, good old Nyrop was able to make more money during a strike than he could under normal airline operations, by pulling lots of money out of the fund; for this reason, such a cynical airline "leader" preferred a strike.
Because of this financial abuse, the other airlines dissolved the "Mutual Aid Pact". Northwest Orient reportedly had the best debt/equity ration of any US airline. Why was their cynical treatment of labor considered necessary?
My friend also told me that their Tentative Agreement would allow the first 90 Embraer 190s etc, to go to a new subsidiary company, "S-Jet". But, for example, if NWA parked large numbers of DC-9s, there would be no replacement, unless NWA decided to buy dozens more than 90 EMB-190s to replace the flying.
If not, then about 1200 DC-9 pilots could, in theory (legally), be laid off! They already have about 600 pilots laid off. Only the number of Emb-190s etc ABOVE those first 90 aircraft, would be flown by mainline NWA pilots. Maybe this info. is not accurate. Their NWA CFO Cohen came from USAirways. After USAirways pilots signed their contract, their company STILL dissolved their retirement. So much for bargaining strategies, but maybe the guy has the wrong interpretation.
Any contradictions based on facts are welcome.
Here is why: the airlines all contributed money to the emergency fund called the "Mutual Aid Pact".
Well, good old Nyrop was able to make more money during a strike than he could under normal airline operations, by pulling lots of money out of the fund; for this reason, such a cynical airline "leader" preferred a strike.
Because of this financial abuse, the other airlines dissolved the "Mutual Aid Pact". Northwest Orient reportedly had the best debt/equity ration of any US airline. Why was their cynical treatment of labor considered necessary?
My friend also told me that their Tentative Agreement would allow the first 90 Embraer 190s etc, to go to a new subsidiary company, "S-Jet". But, for example, if NWA parked large numbers of DC-9s, there would be no replacement, unless NWA decided to buy dozens more than 90 EMB-190s to replace the flying.
If not, then about 1200 DC-9 pilots could, in theory (legally), be laid off! They already have about 600 pilots laid off. Only the number of Emb-190s etc ABOVE those first 90 aircraft, would be flown by mainline NWA pilots. Maybe this info. is not accurate. Their NWA CFO Cohen came from USAirways. After USAirways pilots signed their contract, their company STILL dissolved their retirement. So much for bargaining strategies, but maybe the guy has the wrong interpretation.
Any contradictions based on facts are welcome.
