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Hei,
Could anyone pls direct me towards information, as to a good school where I could undergo and complete the ATP theory (subjects) only in the Miami area.
Thanx in Advance
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Could anyone pls direct me towards information, as to a good school where I could undergo and complete the ATP theory (subjects) only in the Miami area.
Thanx in Advance
Regards
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will widen my search !!!
How about any outfit in Kansas city or the worse case scenario any where on the east/west coast ?????? for the same. Are there dedicated schools/courses I took go to/take to complete the same. Any ideas as to how long I might need ..couple of weeks or will it be more ????.
Hope someone will have an incling of an information ...I hope !!!!!!!
Ta
Hope someone will have an incling of an information ...I hope !!!!!!!
Ta
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Westhawk, I knew I should have done that, good old google ah !!!!, I think I was rather looking for first hand info ...I went to this school is was great etc.
Tired after a long day flying so will resort to the search on wed hopefully.
Cheers
Tired after a long day flying so will resort to the search on wed hopefully.
Cheers
mebro:
There are also a several good study guides for the ATP knowledge test available that you may find useful if you find you have any energy left for self-study after those long days of flying. I found the red books by Irvin Gleim to be well organized and most usable. Whether you attend a traditional ground course or not, the self-study will pay off. No short course is designed to do anything more than prepare you to pass the knowledge test, so any lack of "depth of knowledge" will not really be addressed by a ground prep course or study guide. The Jeppesen text books (expensive!!) go to greater depth in exploring the subject areas as they are more in the character of a college text and may enrich your command of the subject areas to some degree. Preparing for the ATP is quite a bit of work, but it sure will feel good the day you fold that new temporary certificate up and put it in your wallet! (be sure the ink is dry first)
Best of success to you,
Westhawk
There are also a several good study guides for the ATP knowledge test available that you may find useful if you find you have any energy left for self-study after those long days of flying. I found the red books by Irvin Gleim to be well organized and most usable. Whether you attend a traditional ground course or not, the self-study will pay off. No short course is designed to do anything more than prepare you to pass the knowledge test, so any lack of "depth of knowledge" will not really be addressed by a ground prep course or study guide. The Jeppesen text books (expensive!!) go to greater depth in exploring the subject areas as they are more in the character of a college text and may enrich your command of the subject areas to some degree. Preparing for the ATP is quite a bit of work, but it sure will feel good the day you fold that new temporary certificate up and put it in your wallet! (be sure the ink is dry first)
Best of success to you,
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Another option
Try http://www.kingschools.com/ they have great courses available, and you can work on them anywhere.
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i did all mine at
www.allatp.com
they have about 8 schools in FL.
the closest one to miami is Ft Lauderdale which is about 45miles drive north.
i did my writen in Ft Lauderdale and the flying in Lakeland which is a town in between Tampa and Orlando.
Their theory course was good and i passed easily first time without any prior study, and the flying was good and my instructor in lakeland was great.
cheers
rsull
www.allatp.com
they have about 8 schools in FL.
the closest one to miami is Ft Lauderdale which is about 45miles drive north.
i did my writen in Ft Lauderdale and the flying in Lakeland which is a town in between Tampa and Orlando.
Their theory course was good and i passed easily first time without any prior study, and the flying was good and my instructor in lakeland was great.
cheers
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Why not just buy the DVD prep software and sit down a weekend, hammer it out, and schedule the exam that following monday.
(I'm assuming you own a computer)
Should save you quite a few $$$
Best of luck,
(I'm assuming you own a computer)
Should save you quite a few $$$
Best of luck,
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Why not just buy the DVD prep software and sit down a weekend, hammer it out, and schedule the exam that following monday.
Why waste a weekend and money on a DVD ?
You can do the study and exam all in one day at Allatps Ft Lauderdale - even with no prior study for a few years, you will still pass...
Why waste a weekend and money on a DVD ?
You can do the study and exam all in one day at Allatps Ft Lauderdale - even with no prior study for a few years, you will still pass...
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I'm planning on doing the same. Due to scheduling issues, I might not get a chance to do the written and the flight test during the same period. Therefore does anyone know the following.
1) Do you have to have the written complete PRIOR to do the flight test, or can i do the flight test first?
2) If I only get the written completed, is there a time limit between the day I do the written until the day I get the flight test completed? If so, how many months/years.
Thanks,
Joe
1) Do you have to have the written complete PRIOR to do the flight test, or can i do the flight test first?
2) If I only get the written completed, is there a time limit between the day I do the written until the day I get the flight test completed? If so, how many months/years.
Thanks,
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If memory serves me correctly, its a max of 2 years validity between passing the written and doing the check ride. As for getting the check ride before the written (I'd suspect the answer is no) however check the FAR's (I don't have a copy at hand) and/or call a FSDO to verify.
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Thanks,
I tried searching the FAR's but found them difficult to source information. I knew someone on here would have an answer or a lead and that I figured would be much easier. Thanks.
Anyone else with specific FAR source?
I tried searching the FAR's but found them difficult to source information. I knew someone on here would have an answer or a lead and that I figured would be much easier. Thanks.
Anyone else with specific FAR source?
Hey Joe,
61.39 is the applicable regulation regarding practical test prerequisites.
This part of paragraph (a) should answer both questions 1 and 2:
I hope this helps.
Best regards,
Westhawk
P.S. Is that same van still parked down by the river? Chris Farley forever!
61.39 is the applicable regulation regarding practical test prerequisites.
This part of paragraph (a) should answer both questions 1 and 2:
(1) Pass the required knowledge test within the 24-calendar-month period preceding the month the applicant completes the practical test, if a knowledge test is required;
(2) Present the knowledge test report at the time of application for the practical test, if a knowledge test is required;
(2) Present the knowledge test report at the time of application for the practical test, if a knowledge test is required;
Best regards,
Westhawk
P.S. Is that same van still parked down by the river? Chris Farley forever!
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LOL!! Chris Farley forever! That had to be one of the funnies skits he ever did. The man was hilarious. Good observation, I presume you are another fan. I believe we may have crossed paths on PPrune previously? There may still be a van down by the river, but I have since moved on. I'm cruising in the flight levels now!
Thanks for your help. So it looks like I have 2 years between writing the exam and passing the flight test and it sounds like I have to have the written completed first. OK. I think I can still get 'er done. Lets hope.
Fly Well!!
Joe
Thanks for your help. So it looks like I have 2 years between writing the exam and passing the flight test and it sounds like I have to have the written completed first. OK. I think I can still get 'er done. Lets hope.
Fly Well!!
Joe
YMH:
You may be issued a FAA private pilot certificate on the basis of a foreign licence under the provisions of FAR 61.75
FAR 61.35 contains the eligibility requirements to take knowledge tests. (formerly "written" tests) FAR 61.123 requires an endorsement from an authorized instructor to be eligible to take the Commercial pilot knowledge test. Note that there is no longer any flight experience requirements to establish eligibility to take knowledge tests. Note also that, except for graduates of an approved course, FAR 61.129 requires at least 250 hours total time to be eligible to take the commercial pilot practical (flight) test.
FAR 61.153 covers the general eligibility requirements for the issuance of an ATP certificate. Note that no endorsement from an instructor is required to take either the knowledge or practical tests except in the case of a retest after failure as per FAR 61.49
To summarize the steps to be taken to get your FAA ATP certificate:
1) Get your FAA private on the basis of your SA private. If you have an instrument rating, see that this is noted on your FAA certificate by providing an FAA instrument rating knowledge test report along with your SA private with instrument rating. If not, then consider getting one sooner, rather than later.
2) Self study or take a ground course for your commercial pilot knowledge test. You will need an endorsement from an instructor to take this test.
3) Complete the required training and pass your commercial pilot practical test.
4) Aquire the flight experience required for your FAA ATP as per FAR 61.159 This flight experience may be gained anywhere in any registry of aircraft as long as it is properly logged as per FAR 61.51. Only the required training and endorsements must be from a FAA authorized instructor. No instructor endorsement is required in order to take the ATP knowledge or practical tests.
I regret that I am not conversant in the issues of enrty visas or the security requirements related to foreign pilots who wish to train in the USA. If you require advice in this area, there are likely many others on this forum who have "jumped through those hoops" and are familiar with the process. All we USA CFIs are required to know is that we must assure that foreigners have been cleared by TSA prior to the commencement of training for a higher certificate or rating. I'm only sure it has the potential to become a pain in the rear!
The above should not be considered authoratative in any respect. This why I linked all the applicable regulations that I quote. You or someone else may interpret these regulations differently and possibly more correctly. After all, "some anonymous guy on the internet" is hardly an authoritative source. I do hope you will find the references useful though and wish you the best of success!
Best regards,
Westhawk
You may be issued a FAA private pilot certificate on the basis of a foreign licence under the provisions of FAR 61.75
FAR 61.35 contains the eligibility requirements to take knowledge tests. (formerly "written" tests) FAR 61.123 requires an endorsement from an authorized instructor to be eligible to take the Commercial pilot knowledge test. Note that there is no longer any flight experience requirements to establish eligibility to take knowledge tests. Note also that, except for graduates of an approved course, FAR 61.129 requires at least 250 hours total time to be eligible to take the commercial pilot practical (flight) test.
FAR 61.153 covers the general eligibility requirements for the issuance of an ATP certificate. Note that no endorsement from an instructor is required to take either the knowledge or practical tests except in the case of a retest after failure as per FAR 61.49
To summarize the steps to be taken to get your FAA ATP certificate:
1) Get your FAA private on the basis of your SA private. If you have an instrument rating, see that this is noted on your FAA certificate by providing an FAA instrument rating knowledge test report along with your SA private with instrument rating. If not, then consider getting one sooner, rather than later.
2) Self study or take a ground course for your commercial pilot knowledge test. You will need an endorsement from an instructor to take this test.
3) Complete the required training and pass your commercial pilot practical test.
4) Aquire the flight experience required for your FAA ATP as per FAR 61.159 This flight experience may be gained anywhere in any registry of aircraft as long as it is properly logged as per FAR 61.51. Only the required training and endorsements must be from a FAA authorized instructor. No instructor endorsement is required in order to take the ATP knowledge or practical tests.
I regret that I am not conversant in the issues of enrty visas or the security requirements related to foreign pilots who wish to train in the USA. If you require advice in this area, there are likely many others on this forum who have "jumped through those hoops" and are familiar with the process. All we USA CFIs are required to know is that we must assure that foreigners have been cleared by TSA prior to the commencement of training for a higher certificate or rating. I'm only sure it has the potential to become a pain in the rear!
The above should not be considered authoratative in any respect. This why I linked all the applicable regulations that I quote. You or someone else may interpret these regulations differently and possibly more correctly. After all, "some anonymous guy on the internet" is hardly an authoritative source. I do hope you will find the references useful though and wish you the best of success!
Best regards,
Westhawk
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YourMileHighness,
I went to the U.S. with a SACAA PPL, and have got a FAA & CFIMEII.
Westhawk has it bang on, contact the school you plan to go to and get all the TSA requirements from them. If you do not have a night rating you will have to do the night and I.F. requirement before you can do a US PPL test, ie MEL. Both 3 hours.
Good Luck
I went to the U.S. with a SACAA PPL, and have got a FAA & CFIMEII.
Westhawk has it bang on, contact the school you plan to go to and get all the TSA requirements from them. If you do not have a night rating you will have to do the night and I.F. requirement before you can do a US PPL test, ie MEL. Both 3 hours.
Good Luck
