Putting it into perspective
 

RYR-738-JOCKEY,

I am not going to get involved in the argument about whether you should or should not pay for your rating......!

But since you can fly a maximum of 900 block hours a year (I guess this even applies to Ryanair), the calculation should look something like this:
900 hrs x 100 euro´s = 90000 euro´s this divided by 12 months makes it 7500,- euro´s pr. month.

Now that is still a very good salary for an F/O, but not in the region of the 11.000,- that you suggested a freshly typerated F/O could make.

If you are after the "TOP BUCK" get a different job.

Best regards, Life Boat:ok:

As far as i know, a brk contract F/O in ryr with more than 1500hrs you earn 85euros per schedule block hr.Then they take 4,50euros for the simulator = 80,50psbh.
Then tax,insurance etc...
500 - 1500 hrs - 75,50euros psbh
>500 hrs = 55,50euros psbh

You forget the 20 Euro out-of-base allowance.
+ You get paid by the scheduled block, not the actual, i.e.110% of actual hours. One more time: 7500-8500 average, 11000 max.

Ok but there's a reason why it's 20 euros more when you're working all over europe,more expences for sure.So after all i think it's gonna be approx the same money in your pocket on a brk or ryr contract.But back to the topic, i bought my own t/r and got a job right away.It's sad,but i would have done the same again without any doubt.

Can´t help smiling a bit when I read about this "so much pr. scheduled block hour", "this much for sim." etc in the low cost airlines.
It somehow makes me think of shopping in the supermarket;)
No offence though!!

And don´t harass us TP pilots. You know, somewhere deep inside that pylon, I´ve been told there is actually a jet engine. Or so the story goes...

Shait jobs
 

Just a word of advice here: Havining flown professionally now for a while, the 11th year going on to be precise. There are a lot of jobs around now and many of these absolute c.rap. The one I am on right now is substandard in all aspects with no time home, bad rotation and rostering patterns and a very unhealthy work enviroment as well as absolutely disgusting destinations in the worst holes of the 3rd (Should be 4th) world.

I am mostly against paying for your own rating and feel that a company should take the initiative to pay for it. Some operators use the type rating payment or a bond as a guarantee to keep the pilot leaving for greener pastures. My point is that if an employee is treated in a civilized manner and conditions are good, there is no need to be worrried about people leaving.

Additionally as much as I dislike to pay for things, if paying for a rating will get me out of this garbagedump I work now, I will do it without a second thought.

Hopefully we will see airlines around the world realise that there are some really good jobs around and if the a.sshole managemet of the c.rap companies that I mentioned do not get their act together people vote with their feet and go where the sun is shining ( And in some places it is not the CEO's or chiefpilots butt like where I am now)

Hopefully the time that people have to pay to work is going to dissapear and if the pilot shortage that is allready in place will do that before I retire.