Ryanair comes to Oslo to recruit...
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Ryanair comes to Oslo to recruit...
Pilot Recruitment Information Day - Oslo
We will be holding a Pilot Recruitment Information day on the 21st March in the Radisson SAS Airport Hotel, Oslo. This is an excellent opportunity for experienced pilots (minimum of 1,500 hours on JAR25 aircraft) to speak directly to Ryanair's pilot recruitment representatives.
Jus to let you all know, that the new working agreement between Ryanair and the pilots has been rejected by 100%. So please ask as many questions as possible. They will not be able to answer. As usual they will have some line pilots to represent the "normal pilots" views. These lads will have great difficulties in explaining why to change to RYR as it is now. So guys and gals (they don't like gals unfortunately) - please go, and ask them about the good pay, the good roster, the many days of annual leave, the loss of licence, the pension, the many bases you can choose to work from, the crew meals and the free water, the free uniform and the flightdeck that is cleaned every 14 days
We will be holding a Pilot Recruitment Information day on the 21st March in the Radisson SAS Airport Hotel, Oslo. This is an excellent opportunity for experienced pilots (minimum of 1,500 hours on JAR25 aircraft) to speak directly to Ryanair's pilot recruitment representatives.
Jus to let you all know, that the new working agreement between Ryanair and the pilots has been rejected by 100%. So please ask as many questions as possible. They will not be able to answer. As usual they will have some line pilots to represent the "normal pilots" views. These lads will have great difficulties in explaining why to change to RYR as it is now. So guys and gals (they don't like gals unfortunately) - please go, and ask them about the good pay, the good roster, the many days of annual leave, the loss of licence, the pension, the many bases you can choose to work from, the crew meals and the free water, the free uniform and the flightdeck that is cleaned every 14 days
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Originally Posted by B737rider
Let's find some caricature-angry muslims and tell them that the RYR seminar is a meeting for anti-Mohammed/muslim extremists.
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Stones and glass houses....
I'm in no position to critizise any pilot joing Ryainar. Even though I now fly for a major "classic" airline, I've still paid for my own initial CPL training, I've flown countless hours for free in my quest for enough flight hours, and I've accepted the slave contracts offered by small operators who fly codesharing for the majors. I don't see how joining Ryanair is considered any different, except that Ryanair actually pays you to fly.
Those joining will get 900 hours a year on 737's; enough to qualify them with almost any traditional major within a couple of years. As for the more experienced pilots who join Ryanair, the first command is a major motivating force. Three years command will make you very attractive to a lot of carriers looking for direct entry or soon-to-be-upgraded captains. After 8 years in the right seat and with dim prospects over the next 8, the choice is simple. As for "Lots of better jobs out there now" (PolarTrack), let's see them. List them up, would you? And please include the number of pilots they're gonna need, how close to my home they're operating, and how many others are applying for the same positions.
For those who really have a problem with our collegues joining Ryanair, an historical perspective is necessary. We've been prostituting ourselves for|decades in order to get that first "real job", and should get the following fixed before critizing collegues:
- Stop paying for our education and training. Get the governments to finance it, or don't get into the industry at all. Refuse to train unless it's financed.
- Stop flying GA for below-minimum wages.
- Stop flying certain aircraft types for free in exchange for hours
- Stop equating flight hours directly with competence.
- Stop accepting the minimum requirements if they aren't safe.
Those joining will get 900 hours a year on 737's; enough to qualify them with almost any traditional major within a couple of years. As for the more experienced pilots who join Ryanair, the first command is a major motivating force. Three years command will make you very attractive to a lot of carriers looking for direct entry or soon-to-be-upgraded captains. After 8 years in the right seat and with dim prospects over the next 8, the choice is simple. As for "Lots of better jobs out there now" (PolarTrack), let's see them. List them up, would you? And please include the number of pilots they're gonna need, how close to my home they're operating, and how many others are applying for the same positions.
For those who really have a problem with our collegues joining Ryanair, an historical perspective is necessary. We've been prostituting ourselves for|decades in order to get that first "real job", and should get the following fixed before critizing collegues:
- Stop paying for our education and training. Get the governments to finance it, or don't get into the industry at all. Refuse to train unless it's financed.
- Stop flying GA for below-minimum wages.
- Stop flying certain aircraft types for free in exchange for hours
- Stop equating flight hours directly with competence.
- Stop accepting the minimum requirements if they aren't safe.
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If you are thinking of employment with Ryanair, have a look at post #7 in this link first: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=214074
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joerkaaff, whats with you...?
First things first my friend, and let it be clear, I`m Not throwing stones, as to you are trying to indicate!
You and your friends joerkaaff, are free to join whoever you wanna join, I just pointed out that I wouldn`t...
And joerkaaff, let your fellow PPRUNERs know that as working for a "classic" airline, you are most likely a member of a "classic" union, with a good "classic" pension and insurance package, "classic" payed training, and lots of other "classic" sh*t... ect.
If its a must for you to fly the 73, and/or ist a must for you to live at where the only airline based is Ryanair, well, I guess you dont have much of a choice. As for a stepping stone for a typed lowtimer, it might be ok, as long as you can get out allright when a better position pops up...
And joerkaaff, I DO NOT have a problem with our collegues at Ryanair, or others for that case, believe me, I have a lot of old friends flying for all kinds of outfits all over, and at the end of the day, we are all the same breed...
But, every now and then I fly with ex-Ryanair pilots and they seems to be pretty happy to be just that, ex-Ryanair pilots...
As for "a lot of jobs out there", start with checking out the web my friend (climbto350.com, flightinternational.com, parcaviation.com, etc.) There are lots of jobs, you may have to relocate or change a/c type for a whlie, but for "experienced" pilots, you should be able to get decent job now a days...
I speak for my self joerkaaff, but I never flown for free to build time, then again I have flown a lot of different types in a lot of different countries moving all over the world to get experince and to get payd, and to day looking back, had a LOT of fun...
Well I dont know, but fellows, good luck on your jobhunt, and I mean it, you will all get there... soon...
PT
You and your friends joerkaaff, are free to join whoever you wanna join, I just pointed out that I wouldn`t...
And joerkaaff, let your fellow PPRUNERs know that as working for a "classic" airline, you are most likely a member of a "classic" union, with a good "classic" pension and insurance package, "classic" payed training, and lots of other "classic" sh*t... ect.
If its a must for you to fly the 73, and/or ist a must for you to live at where the only airline based is Ryanair, well, I guess you dont have much of a choice. As for a stepping stone for a typed lowtimer, it might be ok, as long as you can get out allright when a better position pops up...
And joerkaaff, I DO NOT have a problem with our collegues at Ryanair, or others for that case, believe me, I have a lot of old friends flying for all kinds of outfits all over, and at the end of the day, we are all the same breed...
But, every now and then I fly with ex-Ryanair pilots and they seems to be pretty happy to be just that, ex-Ryanair pilots...
As for "a lot of jobs out there", start with checking out the web my friend (climbto350.com, flightinternational.com, parcaviation.com, etc.) There are lots of jobs, you may have to relocate or change a/c type for a whlie, but for "experienced" pilots, you should be able to get decent job now a days...
I speak for my self joerkaaff, but I never flown for free to build time, then again I have flown a lot of different types in a lot of different countries moving all over the world to get experince and to get payd, and to day looking back, had a LOT of fun...
Well I dont know, but fellows, good luck on your jobhunt, and I mean it, you will all get there... soon...
PT
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Oslo- meeting yesterday...
From the meeting yesterday: 6 guys showed up for the first one, 15-20 guys on the second. A lot of angry SAS-guys!!!!
The most interesting subject for many of them; would RYR accept direct entry CPT's. As they do, just not speaking much of it in public....
I can understand a guys frustration when he after 25 years in the industry is still sitting in the RHS in SAS, getting less paid than an F/O in RYR/EASY.....
The most interesting subject for many of them; would RYR accept direct entry CPT's. As they do, just not speaking much of it in public....
I can understand a guys frustration when he after 25 years in the industry is still sitting in the RHS in SAS, getting less paid than an F/O in RYR/EASY.....
