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Perhaps a question you should have asked yourself, before hitting the 'submit reply' button AD.
I am fairly sure that Kopeloi is capable of fending for himself, and would have done so if warranted. So I can only assume that you are speaking for yourself, and that of course beg the question, whatever did I say that was too personal for you?
When people take great delight in the erosion of the T&C's of aircrew, specifically in a part of the industry they don't work in, and think that it's a breath of "fresh air", I really start to wonder what motivates people to have such opinions? Is it envy, simple pettiness or just a desire for others to do worse so one can feel better about one's own situation?
To suggest that aircrew pay is a determining factor in a company's financial performance or could even lead to bankruptcy is just ignorance, possibly fuelled by the same motives as mentioned before.
I am fairly sure that Kopeloi is capable of fending for himself, and would have done so if warranted. So I can only assume that you are speaking for yourself, and that of course beg the question, whatever did I say that was too personal for you?
When people take great delight in the erosion of the T&C's of aircrew, specifically in a part of the industry they don't work in, and think that it's a breath of "fresh air", I really start to wonder what motivates people to have such opinions? Is it envy, simple pettiness or just a desire for others to do worse so one can feel better about one's own situation?
To suggest that aircrew pay is a determining factor in a company's financial performance or could even lead to bankruptcy is just ignorance, possibly fuelled by the same motives as mentioned before.
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Techman,
I mean what I write! Times of union backed high salaries in aviation are gone, period. There is nothing what anyone of us can do for it. As JJ flyer wrote, this started from US and worked it way to Europe. Now in Scandinavia it wouldnīt help to start a fight against it any longer.
You can see it everywhere, SAS is setting "new" airlines as do Finnair. Salaries are not comparable for previous ones and they have no problems to find crews! Why?
Just accept the situation and if you donīt like to work on these wages, there is plenty other jobs in the world. Unfortunately most "badly" paid.
Watch what is happening for last large US airlines with they "overpaid" crews! Down to drain..... Better start to look something else like yachting or simply forget your old opinions and let fresh air in and keep flying more hours on smaller pay!
Life is Good and I hope that they will buid more bizjets!
Nikolai
I mean what I write! Times of union backed high salaries in aviation are gone, period. There is nothing what anyone of us can do for it. As JJ flyer wrote, this started from US and worked it way to Europe. Now in Scandinavia it wouldnīt help to start a fight against it any longer.
You can see it everywhere, SAS is setting "new" airlines as do Finnair. Salaries are not comparable for previous ones and they have no problems to find crews! Why?
Just accept the situation and if you donīt like to work on these wages, there is plenty other jobs in the world. Unfortunately most "badly" paid.
Watch what is happening for last large US airlines with they "overpaid" crews! Down to drain..... Better start to look something else like yachting or simply forget your old opinions and let fresh air in and keep flying more hours on smaller pay!
Life is Good and I hope that they will buid more bizjets!
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You are quite right Max150, as it is now there is little backbone in those employed in the profession.
You will often see people pretending too be the messenger of the "Bad" news while they infact wellcome the changes.
Often it is those who who can not make it to the top, but the rather want to drag the top down to their level.
It is sad. But nevertheless something that have to fought....
You will often see people pretending too be the messenger of the "Bad" news while they infact wellcome the changes.
Often it is those who who can not make it to the top, but the rather want to drag the top down to their level.
It is sad. But nevertheless something that have to fought....
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Finnair Express
Gents,
As this a rumour network
Lets throw another log to the fireplace. Have anybody else heard about the possibility, that all the new airplanes all 12 of them are indeed going to be flying under new not yet publicly announced company called Finnair Express.
Or maybe they were going to SAS I am not sure it was 4am when I heard it in the pub and we were pretty...
HS
As this a rumour network
Lets throw another log to the fireplace. Have anybody else heard about the possibility, that all the new airplanes all 12 of them are indeed going to be flying under new not yet publicly announced company called Finnair Express. Or maybe they were going to SAS I am not sure it was 4am when I heard it in the pub and we were pretty...HS
