At least the Iranians will know of the target co-ordinates and exact timings in advance though.

I am not interested in your silly games, nor am I obliged to play them.
Have you not grasped that? Go play them with somebody else.

I have ample capacity to put myself in someone else's shoes removed

Posted yesterday, so read today as yesterday.......

Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) is claiming to have attacked and seized two oil tankers today in the Persian Gulf, which they claim were part of a “fuel smuggling network” in the Gulf.

The two tankers, identified as STAR l and VINTAGE, were captured during a naval operation by the IRGC earlier today, with 25 crewmembers being arrested while the tankers are transferred to an oil port in the city of Bushehr, where their fuel will be offloaded and seized by Iran.

One of the tankers is believed to be owned and operated by the United Arab Emirates (UAE), while the other is currently unknown.

Newsweek: https://www.newsweek.com/iran-oil-ta...s-irgc-2053523

Iran Oil Tanker Seizure Stokes Tensions with U.S.

Plus the Carl Vinson CVBG** arriving along with other assets being deployed.

​​​​​​​* https://taskandpurpose.com/news/a10-warthogs-middle-east-houthis/

​​​​​​​** https://taskandpurpose.com/news/navy-carl-vinson-yemen/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-d...ycsrp_catchall

Russia condemns 'ultimatums' after Trump threatens to bomb Iran

MOSCOW (Reuters) -Russia has warned that strikes against Iran's nuclear infrastructure would have "catastrophic" consequences, after U.S. President Donald Trump threatened to bomb Iran unless it came to an agreement with Washington over its nuclear program.

"Threats are indeed being heard, ultimatums are also being heard," Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told the Russian journal "International Affairs" in an interview, extracts of which were published on Tuesday.

"We consider such methods inappropriate, we condemn them, we consider them a way for (the U.S.) to impose its own will on the Iranian side."

Russia has for the most part refrained from sharp criticism of Trump, with whom President Vladimir Putin has moved quickly to repair relations in a rapprochement viewed with concern by Ukraine and its European allies.

The Kremlin has offered to mediate between the Trump administration and Iran, with which it signed a strategic partnership treaty in January.

Trump, in his first remarks since Iran rejected direct negotiations with Washington, told NBC News over the weekend that Tehran could face bombing and secondary tariffs if it did not reach an agreement over its nuclear program.

"If they don't make a deal, there will be bombing," he said. "It will be bombing the likes of which they have never seen before."

During his first term, Trump withdrew the U.S. from a 2015 deal between Iran and world powers that placed strict limits on Tehran's disputed nuclear activities in exchange for sanctions relief. Iran says it needs nuclear energy for peaceful purposes and denies it is seeking to build an atomic bomb.

Ryabkov said Trump's recent comments only served to "complicate the situation" in regards to Iran. "The consequences of this, especially if the strikes are on nuclear infrastructure, could be catastrophic for the entire region," Ryabkov said.

"While there is still time and the 'train has not left', we need to redouble our efforts to try to reach an agreement on a reasonable basis. Russia is ready to offer its good services to Washington, Tehran and everyone who is interested in this," he said.

VideoChannel 14 Israel: A large-scale attack on Iran will begin soon, and it will be "a strike unprecedented since World War II."

By whom - Israel or the US (or both)?

Given the handle of the X user I'd guess this may be wishful thinking.

ORAC, they seem to have ignored the benefits of surprise. This got me to thinking. I looked into their principles of war.
UK compared to Israel:I didn't see "Surprise" in there. Perhaps they call it something else.
I had thought that "surprise" would be a universal element of the principles of war, but apparently it is not.

for dead pan
Please don't tell me you think that it is a rumor! On PPRuNe! :eek:

Videos abound on Youtube postulating that Iran is perhaps weeks away from having serviceable nukes. A mad as a hatter Islamic regime having nukes is un tenable. The nukes, the capacity to make more nukes and said ruling religious regime must be removed no matter the cost. It's that simple. Taking iran out of the picture will solve a lot of the worlds problems in one fell swoop.

Videos on YouTube?? Well that's me convinced!

Assuming it is imminent, there is the distinct possibility an attack would precipitate its use.

As for:

What problems exactly? Hamas and Hezbollah are spent forces, and the Houthis an occasional menace.

VideoCENTCOM commander Gen. Kurilla arrived in Israel today and is holding meetings with top security officials, per Kann News

I think that you overstate your case.
What do you mean by "Taking Iran Out" beyond a simple sound byte? I'll reserve further comment until you clarify that.

T28B, are you telling me 'SMOSSCEFCA' has gone out the window?
But I take your point, "Surprise" should be taken as read. Maybe they just call it "SOP", or "Readiness".

I was somewhat surprised by what I found at the link I provided.
Apparently, each country has its own version of "principles of war" (the Americans use MOSSMOUSE).
SMOSSCEFCA is probably alive and well, wherever it was founded.

I presume you're referring to the Wikipedia page? It was a malformed link in your post.
Here's the Wikipedia Principles of war.

Fascinating reading, thanks. :ok:

Thanks Artee, that answers my question. I was brought up on the 20th Century version - which your source reveals was changed in 2011, and states: 'The tenth principle, added later, was originally called Administration.'

Fair enough, but in such case, you should ignore the post and not reply to it.....

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I wonder what happens if USA attacks Iran then Iran retaliates against deployed US Forces. Does the USA holler “Article 5!!!!!” ? And if so, does the rest of NATO respond?

Not inside the NATO area, see Article 6…..

I'd assume there may be serious pressure in Iran to complete at least one bomb and test it ASAP - it doesn't have to be smart, it just has to go off.