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racedo 11th July 2019 09:29


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 10515486)
Now where were we.....oh...yes....dealing with playground bully's we were discussing.

It seems five Iranian Revolutionary Guard Gun Boats tried to seize a UK Oil Tanker....until the Royal Navy Frigate showed up and pointed the Ship's guns at the bad boys.

The Iranians elected to have a run ashore in lieu of boarding the Tanker it seems.

Odd that....show the Bully Boys they are going to get their hind ends kicked and they leg it.

Not much changes over the years when it comes to stuff....really.

If you appease them...they only grow bolder......remember that "Peace in our time...." stuff from yesterday year?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nker-Gulf.html

So no attempt to board, no warning to stop just they happened to be in the same area which is their territorial water. Looks like Foriegn Office PR Dept is at work.

Mil-26Man 11th July 2019 09:35


Looks like Foriegn Office PR Dept is at work.
That's what everything looks like to you, racedo. If the boot's on the other foot though, then no questions asked.

ORAC 11th July 2019 10:11


no warning to stop
A British Ministry of Defense source told CNN that it "appeared that the Iranian vessels were trying to divert the Heritage from international to Iranian waters" before the British Navy ship HMS Montrose "got between them and issued a verbal warning to withdraw."​​​​​​​

SASless 11th July 2019 13:39

This new whiz bang will change the rules of the game a bit....120 nm range.....find you three different ways....now try to target a Drone in International waters with a few of these looking for your emitter.

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/new-nav...from-120-miles

Lonewolf_50 11th July 2019 18:14

I wonder if anyone is dusting off old copies of Operation Earnest Will and the various O-Plans that are associated with it.
32 years later and we see SSDD: Same Stuff, Different Decade.

SASless 11th July 2019 19:26

Lots of technology and force structure differences between then and now......bad conduct by the Revolutionary Guard.....not so much.

Asturias56 12th July 2019 12:07

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48958359

The UK has brought forward plans to send a second warship to the Gulf amid rising tensions with Iran.

HMS Duncan is currently in the Mediterranean and is expected to join HMS Montrose in the region next week. It comes after the UK government said Iranian boats tried to impede a British oil tanker in the Gulf on Wednesday. Meanwhile, Iran has reiterated calls for the UK to release an Iranian-owned oil tanker which was detained by Royal Marines in Gibraltar last week. An Iranian official, speaking to state news agency IRNA, warned the UK not to get involved in "this dangerous game".

The relationship between the UK and Iran has become increasingly strained in recent weeks. On Tuesday, the UK raised the threat to British shipping in Iranian waters in the Gulf to the highest level - where the risk of attack is critical. The following day, boats believed to belong to Iran's Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC) approached the British Heritage tanker and tried to bring it to a halt as it was moving out of the Gulf into the Strait of Hormuz. HMS Montrose, a British frigate shadowing the BP-owned tanker, was forced to move between the three boats and the ship, a Ministry of Defence spokesman said. Iran denied any involvement in the attempted seizure.

HMS Duncan, a type 45 Destroyer, will operate alongside HMS Montrose in the Gulf for a short period, before HMS Montrose goes back to Bahrain for routine maintenance. A government spokeswoman said: "As part of our long-standing presence in the Gulf, HMS Duncan is deploying to the region to ensure we maintain a continuous maritime security presence while HMS Montrose comes off task for pre-planned maintenance and crew change over. "This will ensure that the UK, alongside international partners, can continue to support freedom of navigation for vessels transiting through this vital shipping lane."

Lyneham Lad 12th July 2019 16:59

A Type 45 deploying to the Gulf at the height of summer - what could possibly go wrong...

Lonewolf_50 12th July 2019 19:25


Originally Posted by Lyneham Lad (Post 10517007)
A Type 45 deploying to the Gulf at the height of summer - what could possibly go wrong...

Sunburn????

ORAC 12th July 2019 19:48


AnglianAV8R 13th July 2019 18:46

Iranian and US officials held a secret meeting in the northern Iraqi province of Arbil late on Tuesday, US media reported Wednesday.
A group composed of the grandson of the founder of the Islamic Republic, Hassan Khomeini, and two Iranian Revolutionary Guards officers and Iran's envoy to Iraq, Iraj Musjidi, met US officials in Arbil after growing. Iran's internal political struggle, between conservatives and reformists.

The IRNA network confirmed that its sources had provided information about the "launching of a campaign of political liquidation among the dissenters in Iran, the secular government led by Hassan Rowhani and the conservative conservatism of Qayad Ali Khamenei, which led to the arrest of 125 Iranian officials and the assassination of an unknown number, Nasseri, which called for a group of officials angry as a result of the current dispute, the holding of the meeting with the United States, and for unspecified reasons, most of the desire to stop the current weakness of the government in Tehran.
The network pointed to "a split in the ranks of the Basij, in addition to the government, where the political campaigns of liquidation, fearing a soft coup against the current regime." https://www.alghadpress.com/news/%D8...A-%D9%88%D8%A7

SASless 17th July 2019 12:08

In the meanwhile....the UK is dispatching more warships into the area....doubling or tripling its presence there.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/952237...third-warship/

I am sure the Bangers and Mash from the supply ship will go over swell on any US Warship it services!

Lonewolf_50 17th July 2019 14:26

I was making a slight play on words that seems to not have registered. :E Thanks for the links, interesting reading.

ericsson16 18th July 2019 12:34

Iran seizes 'fuel-smuggling' tanker in Gulf
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49029053

racedo 18th July 2019 12:53


Originally Posted by ericsson16 (Post 10521788)

Seems like nobody wants to own up to owning it and where it was going.

Seems like they can claim it was a legitimate stop until all data is provided.

John Marsh 18th July 2019 19:58

Iranian drone shot down
 
From the Telegraph


US President Donald Trump said on Thursday that a US warship destroyed an Iranian drone in the Strait of Hormuz amid heightened tensions between the two countries.

Mr Trump said the USS Boxer took defensive action after the drone closed to within 1,000 yards of the warship and ignored multiple calls to stand down.

The President called it the latest "hostile" action by Iran and urged other countries to condemn what he says are Iran's attempts to disrupt the freedom of navigation and global commerce in the strategic waterway in the Persian Gulf region.

He said the drone threatened the safety of the American ship and its crew.

Iran recently shot down a US drone that it said was flying over Iran.

Trump called off a planned retaliatory airstrike at the last minute, citing the number of potential casualties.

This is a developing story.

West Coast 18th July 2019 21:09


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 10521803)
Seems like nobody wants to own up to owning it and where it was going.

Seems like they can claim it was a legitimate stop until all data is provided.

I don’t know if this is a revelation to you or not, but you don’t have to hold a position, you can wait out till evidence is made public.

Just a thought.

AnglianAV8R 18th July 2019 21:22

Iran makes 'substantial' nuclear offer in return for US lifting sanctions​​​​​​​

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...arif-sanctions

racedo 18th July 2019 23:06


Originally Posted by West Coast (Post 10522170)
I don’t know if this is a revelation to you or not, but you don’t have to hold a position, you can wait out till evidence is made public.
Just a thought.

You and I both know there is no chance that "evidence" will be made public unless it suits someone's personal agenda. Media will then spin it in whatever way they are told to.

I am happy, like you are, to express an opinion, it is my opinion solely, neither of us has to be right or wrong. Ultimately we are just expressing personal opinions and having read your opinions, I think I can safely say that they are yours solely, not influenced by anybody. It is why I read them.

Lyneham Lad 19th July 2019 16:45

U.S. Navy Flotilla Encounters Iran in Strait of Hormuz
 
In the WSJ.

Extract:-

An unarmed Iranian navy Bell 212 helicopter flew alongside the Boxer, yards away from the deck, before it was chased away by a U.S. helicopter. The commander of the Boxer, Capt. Ronald Dowdell, called the engagement “surreal.”

The convoy swept past the speed boats without incident but was followed by the larger Iranian military vessel, which came as close as 500 yards to the Boxer—the distance the U.S. navy allows before verbally communicating to a ship not to come any closer.

U.S. helicopters flew between the Iranian ship and the Boxer to warn it away, then followed a white Iranian aircraft that U.S. naval officials identified as a Y-12 surveillance plane.

Soon after, at approximately 10 a.m. local time, the Boxer convoy downed the drone, a U.S. official said late Thursday.



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