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From Starmer’s speech today
“Our priority is to protect British people, which is why ‘long before’ the US-Israeli strikes began, we had begun adding defence assets to the region ‘to defend our interests’. Throughout January and February, the UK was moving defensive assets to Cyprus and Qatar, including fighter jets, air defence missiles and advanced radar systems, to ensure the UK was "in a heightened state of readiness" in advance of any conflict. When the strikes began on Saturday, the UK ‘immediately’ put those jets in the sky and they were able to shoot down multiple drones, at least one of which was heading towards a base housing British military personnel. The UK is ‘constantly resupplying our jets and our missile stores’ and responding to allies in the region for further help” Why on earth this hasn’t received more publicity is very strange. If true, it would have deflected a lot of criticism. If untrue… |
Originally Posted by Canary Boy
(Post 12047384)
From Starmer’s speech today
“Our priority is to protect British people, which is why ‘long before’ the US-Israeli strikes began, we had begun adding defence assets to the region ‘to defend our interests’. Throughout January and February, the UK was moving defensive assets to Cyprus and Qatar, including fighter jets, air defence missiles and advanced radar systems, to ensure the UK was "in a heightened state of readiness" in advance of any conflict. When the strikes began on Saturday, the UK ‘immediately’ put those jets in the sky and they were able to shoot down multiple drones, at least one of which was heading towards a base housing British military personnel. The UK is ‘constantly resupplying our jets and our missile stores’ and responding to allies in the region for further help” Why on earth this hasn’t received more publicity is very strange. If true, it would have deflected a lot of criticism. If untrue… Personally, I don't believe a word he says.. |
Originally Posted by Canary Boy
(Post 12047384)
Why on earth this hasn’t received more publicity is very strange.
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The wider question is though shouldn't an airbase have defences?
I'm a little concerned our bases are undefended until attacked. |
If Iran drags on for months and starts draining our missile reserves how does that impact Ukraine?
The West might be dragged into a conflict on two fronts where it's struggling to supply a country fighting on one. |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 12047146)
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https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f2cbf572c.jpeg Iran hasn't struck Botswana, Heard Island or Djibouti yet, but it is early in the day so, never say never. I should prefer the plan where we line up the current crop of politicians and leaders, add a bit of negative buoyancy and get them to enter deep water to at least find application as fish food. That is only one suggestion, a 'gator farm would also suffice. Seems to me that while ruminating over 2000 year old manuscripts that portray the same events and yet appear to arrive at conflicting conclusions anyway, is a really weird abrogation of responsibility to behave like an adult rather than a petulant child that throws their dummy out of the cot to garner some attention and to achieve their immediate aims. At least the child in the cot has an aim; plonking par avion rowdy stuff into Azerbaiyadayada seems to be obtuse. Had thought that Vlad had already made the position clear that there was stuff all intelligent life in the universe, there being a distinct lack of it in the Kremlin, White House and sundry other halls of wisdom. When the responsible adult turned out to be Boris Johnson, you gotta wonder if we stepped into a parallel universe some time back. The grand plan of Iran is to... 1. Repeat the glory of 80-88...? 2. Plink the back of young girls heads who take exception to wearing a Klingon Cloaking device as some male decided that was a brill idea, after all, the guys don't wear the same device... 3. Smoke your neighbours as that has always ended well... 4. Incentivise your population into reverting to the Stone Age... 5. Increase demand for prosthetics. The argument that having defence leads to conflict, ergo no defence is the best defence seems to have run its course. Previously Gavvy Princip had shown that the law of unintended consequences probably should be considered before going out and enacting fantasies. Plinking the HOS of a nation not known for rational thought for the last 50 years just seems to be a bit.... silly, in hindsight. Seems to me that someone pulling levers is making a side bet that the demand for uranium from every country in the world from Monte Carlo, to the Maldives will increase as it becomes apparent that the only effective way to keep the peace is by having the means to mess in the rice bowl of the other team. If that was the learning point of messing with Irans efforts to set aside some buckets of sunshine for rainy days, then, well done! (being an existential threat does not obviate the need for the other player to defend against existential threats). Personally, I find camomile tea helps understand the grand strategy that we observe in practice. |
fdr:
The intelligent life forms in other parts of the universe have already taken a look at what's available on Terra Firma, and have quarantined our sector of the galaxy. :p The Wall Street Journal has an interesting article on the missile assets, and deployment strategy, that Iran has built up over the years. They cover the pros and cons of this strategic approach. This also makes me think back to the Scud Hunting issues from Gulf War I (Operation Desert Storm) and how the current missile hunting effort is both similar and different. I'll put it in a spoiler, it's a pretty long article. He opens up with calling their strategy a 'blunder' and I disagree with his characterization. It's a very practical approach when one considers the use of air power by their (Iran's) primary threats. They shot over 500 missiles at various targets in less than a week, and still have a substantial inventory on hand.
Originally Posted by WSJ
Story by David S. Cloud | 3/5/2026
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Originally Posted by Thrust Augmentation
(Post 12047399)
There was a junior minister talking the same bull on the BBC this morning - its the same bull that our government (of any colour) dishes out when any shortfall becomes public. A bit like Covid track & trace being up to speed, just blatant bull to make the questions stop.
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He contrasted the slowness of the UK response with that of Greece and France, which had announced support for Cyprus earlier. Kouros said: “The French are coming. The least we expect is the Britons to also be present since, as I said, we are not only defending Cypriots on the islands.” |
Originally Posted by TURIN
(Post 12047423)
Did Greece and France have aircraft based in Cyprus before this kicked off?
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If that is CdG I thought she was based in Toulon, so she could just as likely be on her way home as heading for the Eastern Mediterranean.
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An interesting article about an Iranian strategy (that was apparently featured in exercises recently) can be found at this link:
https://sundayguardianlive.com/world...hormuz-173392/ Its from the Guardian and is fairly concise, although its caveats include that of being a summary of other reports. It would appear that they developed this to mitigate the problems they knew that they would face with America and its allies establishing air superiority (which seems to have come to pass as of this writing). Israel-Iran War: Iran flipped the script on its defense playbook today, fully activating the Decentralized Mosaic Defense doctrine. This hands IRGC provincial commanders total freedom to call shots without Tehran’s nod. The move ramps up after US and Israel strikes hammered central command lines. How Does Decentralized Mosaic Defense Actually Work?IRGC splits into 31 standalone units—one for Tehran, 30 for provinces. Each acts like a puzzle piece. Commanders get full tactical power. Fire missiles? Launch drones? Guerrilla raids? Their call. No waiting for green lights. Rugged mountains and deserts turn into kill zones. “Defense in depth” wears down invaders slow.Why Is This Mosaic Shift a Game-Changer for IRGC?Old way: Everything funneled through Tehran. One big strike, whole army freezes.New way: Pieces keep fighting solo. Tested in February’s “Smart Control” drills. Swarms of speedboats buzzed Strait of Hormuz. Electronic tricks jammed foes. Now live amid real war. Resilience skyrockets. What’s the Real Goal Behind Iran’s Rogue Commanders?Exhaust attackers. Use terrain for ambushes. Make invasion a nightmare.History echoes Vietnam or Afghanistan traps. IRGC ground, navy, air all plug in. Provinces run their show. Tehran strike? Others ramp up. {Foreign Minister} Araghchi says it locks Iran’s endgame control. How Did Recent Drills Prep This Mosaic Madness?Mid-February “Smart Control” exercises nailed it. Fast-attack craft swarmed in Hormuz.EW systems blinded radars. Decentralized orders flew without central okay. Proven ready. Now, post-strikes, it’s go-time. IRGC’s 190,000 troops plus reserves scatter smart. What Risks Does This Spell for US, Israel, and Gulf?Rogue units mean surprise hits anywhere. Strait chokepoints tighten. Oil flows choke. Allies like GCC sweat.US-Israel face endless pinpricks. No quick win. Escalation odds spike. World watches if mosaic cracks or multiplies the mess. Q: What is Iran’s Decentralized Mosaic Defense? |
A couple of questions.
Is the UK obligated to defend Cyprus? Is there a treaty that commits us to this? If Bahrain, the UAE etc spend billions on the latest, most modern military equipment and build up huge armed forces, why do they expect the UK to turn up and defend their territory when somebody starts sending missiles their way? |
Originally Posted by Martin the Martian
(Post 12047491)
A couple of questions.
Is the UK obligated to defend Cyprus? Is there a treaty that commits us to this? |
Originally Posted by sharpend
(Post 12047412)
When I was based at Akroriri the RAF Regiment had armour cars, Bofers guns, Rapier and Bloodhound missiles were there too. That was when there was no threat. Where did it all go wrong?
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Originally Posted by DogTailRed2
(Post 12047404)
If Iran drags on for months and starts draining our missile reserves how does that impact Ukraine?
The West might be dragged into a conflict on two fronts where it's struggling to supply a country fighting on one. Is that what will happen? I have no idea.
Originally Posted by Tu.114
(Post 12047501)
There are reports that Mr. Trump desires to be consulted in the selection of a successor to Mr. Khamenei.
What does he base this wish on? EDIT: OK, I hit the translate button, they mentioned that.
Spoiler
Getting back to Iran, I have an idea that the IRGC is going to have in input into whomever is put into the leadership seat...for as long as the war goes on. There were some very good articles published in the last year about the Iranian succession process, as Ayatollah Khamenei began to show signs of slowing down and declining health. Given that there have only been two since the founding of the Islamic Republic, Khomeini and Khamenei, they may adapt and adjust how they do all of this. I doubt taking advice from Washington figures into any of that. :p |
From the BBC:
We can bring you an update now on UK defence operations in the Middle East. Defence sources say:
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 12047496)
RAFG bases bristled with AA back in the day.
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No. We are (technically) guarantor powers but that has gone by the wayside after the events of 1974. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk...ings/cbp-10540 |
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