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NutLoose 29th November 2012 18:23

Ejection... Cutting it fine
 
Large photo of its final moments.

http://theaviationist.com/wp-content...aci%C3%B3n.jpg

The trainer was only 4 months old,

The image was taken by Erwin Fuguet Gedde at Maracay-El Libertador airbase, Venezuela, where the Venezuelan Air Force was celebrating its 92 Anniversary with the Día de la Aviación.It depicts a Hongdu K-8 Karakorum (a two-seat intermediate jet trainer and light attack aircraft designed in China) about to crash into the ground near the airport, moments after the two pilots onboard had safely ejected from the doomed jet.

Engine failure and trying to get it back to the field?

Film here, gets interesting about the 1 minute mark, both crew survived but one of the chutes does not appear to fully deploy before he touches down


The Cougar scrambled to rescue the K8 crew also went in but the crew of that survived as well

Plane, Helicopter Crash During Venezuela Air Show | World | RIA Novosti

They also lost a pair of Broncos practicing for the same show sadly killing one of the pilots and injuring 3 a week earlier at the same place..

P6 Driver 29th November 2012 18:32

Impressive stuff, ejecting that low!

Onceapilot 29th November 2012 19:14

Glad if they survived!
Reminds me of the old (modified) "eject in time" poster....Wimp, Good decision, Unlucky!


OAP

NutLoose 29th November 2012 19:36

Appear to have and seen reports that they did

ASN Aircraft accident 27-NOV-2012 Hongdu K-8 Karakorum

Bloody good advert for the seats.

ORAC 29th November 2012 19:38

High key, screwed it it up....

NutLoose 29th November 2012 19:41

Photographer posted this on Facebook

I took this photo today in the afternoon when Venezuelan Air Force was celebrating its 92 Anniversary. I saw the aircraft flying over the vertical of the airbase in a low flight pass. I guessed that the plane had a mechanical failure and I started to followed with my camera, as soon as the pilots ejected I took the photo.... — with Carlos Bethencourt.

dead_pan 29th November 2012 19:41

Intrigued to know whether the actual ejection caused the violent pitch down of the K-8?

500N 29th November 2012 19:46

dead pan

It certainly looks that way in the video (2nd Ejection seat firing).

Warmtoast 29th November 2012 19:52

There's a higher definition still photo here:
Today's Photos, Wednesday - November 28th, 2012 - Page 2
(Post No. 25)

Sir George Cayley 29th November 2012 20:24

The RAF poster I saw at Valley said - Lucky, Dead Lucky, Dead:hmm:

SGC

Buster Hyman 29th November 2012 20:28


The trainer was only 4 months old,
That's too young to fly, let alone train someone else! :=

MightyGem 30th November 2012 11:09


Impressive stuff, ejecting that low!
"OK Bloggs, we're in the poo. Don't eject yet. Wait for my call, it'll look dead impressive" :E

dead_pan 30th November 2012 12:20


Intrigued to know whether the actual ejection caused the violent pitch down of the K-8?
Would it be desirable for an a/c to fly on (providing it can) once ejection has taken place e.g. if the pilot points the a/c away from a built-up area prior to ejecting?

ShyTorque 30th November 2012 12:48

Probably close to the stall when they ejected, and probably why they ejected.

Madbob 30th November 2012 16:46

Good job it did pitch down; if it had glided just a little further the crew would have been caught in the fireball.....:eek::eek::eek:

MB

Wallah 30th November 2012 16:57

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...HVQU0p_HktNpXg

You still have to go a long way to beat this.

Courtney Mil 30th November 2012 17:10

Did the double ejection cause the aircraft to pitch down? Interesting answers there. Of course it did. Newton's Third Law of Motion.:rolleyes:

P6 Driver 30th November 2012 17:40


"OK Bloggs, we're in the poo. Don't eject yet. Wait for my call, it'll look dead impressive" :E
Well it was an airshow!
(Once an entertainer, always an entertainer)

Fareastdriver 30th November 2012 18:22


Newton's Third Law of Motion.
It reminds me of the technique for recovering from the stall in the Gloster Javelin. With a delta wing and high tail one could get to a situation where the tailplane was blanked off by the mainplane. If a normal recovery didn't work you ejected the navigator. The recoil of the high powered seat would pitch the nose down and normal flight would be recovered.
That was a case where navigators were really useful.

BOAC 30th November 2012 18:38

I trust you told the nav where he was before you punched him out?:)


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