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cyrilranch 22nd September 2012 14:58

resprayed sentinel
 
why gloss?

View topic - Sentinel ZJ691 ReSpray.

Milo Minderbinder 22nd September 2012 19:30

shiny things are easier to sell second hand
they look prettier

WE992 22nd September 2012 19:37

Because it lasts longer! The 2 146's recently purchased are also in this gloss grey.

NutLoose 22nd September 2012 19:37

Harder wearing in gloss, finish lasts longer, easier to clean and goes quicker.. Additionally it gives the chaps something to do keeping it shiny.

Pontius Navigator 23rd September 2012 07:40

Serco bought a job lot of gloss from Ramco?

Pontius Navigator 23rd September 2012 07:46

When the V-force switched from white to camouflage the job was a rush one and a matt finish was used. I think the coeficient of reflection for the white was IRO 0.98 whereas the camouflage was near 0.3. (I think the terms are right, the values are close and relate to the potential of the paint to attentuate the light or heat pulse IIRC).

Once the initial conversion was done there was a more leisurely repaint with high gloss polyurethane. It looked smart and would have had a much higher attenutation. It also added 4,000lbs to the AUW.

However I thought the more recent matt finishes had more to do with IR attenuation, so why the gloss?

Wensleydale 23rd September 2012 09:00



However I thought the more recent matt finishes had more to do with IR
attenuation, so why the gloss?
I also understood that the matt "barley grey" finish was to prevent the reflection of IR energy. I was also told that when the E-3D entered service, the request to paint it matt (rather than the shiny grey/white of the NATO/USAF fleet) caused some consternation at Boeing because the new paint scheme would also absorb heat from the sun whereas the old shceme would reflect it. The story was told that when the USAF transport fleet changed from gloss to camouflage, there was an increased failure rate of aircraft systems due to insufficient cooling. The result was a somewhat expensive investigation as to whether the E-3D's new scheme would affect the mission system or would additional cooling be needed.

Perhaps the Sentinel systems got a little warm?

Pontius Navigator 23rd September 2012 10:50

Wensleydale, good point. We remember the white cockpits on the flying wheel barrow and the desert cam Hercs, the white top on the Dominie, the white top on the Shacks etc etc.

WhiteOvies 23rd September 2012 23:57

Looks like a gloss sea grey colour, good for an MPA! Really hope they find a role post Herrick as binning them would be a hell of a waste.

Geehovah 24th September 2012 17:48

I agree. No IR threat; no problem.

TorqueOfTheDevil 26th September 2012 00:01


flying wheel barrow
Beverley??

4mastacker 26th September 2012 06:21


flying wheel barrow

Beverley??
AW660 Argosy.

the ten letters jobsworth fairy strikes again)

Wander00 26th September 2012 07:38

Argosy - "Whistling wheelbarrow" ISTR

Out Of Trim 26th September 2012 19:28

Argosy = Whistling Tit ! :)

matkat 27th September 2012 07:40

Certainly looks better than the first to be painted, I was the rep that took the first one from Broughton to air livery:D.


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