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Admin_Guru 9th April 2012 20:03

All fair comment. although my opinion is that at BSN it is more down to professional aircrew (& GC) focused on a common objective to fully support the guys on the ground whilst staying alive themselves then a cohesion imposed/enforced by a HQ in Andover. In N.I. pre-Afg when the AAC, CHF & RAF were required to work together, they did. All other times it was a banter rich zone but that did not mean that mutual respect was absent. Many a time a blue guardian angel watched over the real workers after dark. JHC was a good idea but it is also based upon unrealistic idealism; and a cynic would say a back door attempt to get SH into a brown uniform without a mass exodus. In that aspect it is an ongoing failure and SDSR has been more divisive then any other event in recent military history. Jointery only works when individual identity is retained and respected and this is a big failing in JHC units.
Not that this has anything to do with the survival of Puma.

Tiger_mate 9th April 2012 20:13

How many Puma II are online now?

Not banter-bait, asking because I do not know.

Alexander.Yakovlev 9th April 2012 20:28

Admin,

Surely AAC, CHF/RN and RAF SH assets working together to stay alive and get the job done for the guys on the ground is the essence of the aim of JHC?!!!

chopabeefer 10th April 2012 16:55

upsdaisy

Imaginary friend? Denigrating somebody you don't know. You are a bully, clearly. The very lowest excuse for a human. Your insult is obviously the desperate rambling of a lost soul without purpose. If you were not a bully, I would pity you.
As for your thread idea - do i- I'm in. It's staying where it is.

Unchecked 9th May 2012 09:16

You'll get the keys when you pass the OCF.

Good luck with that.

Evalu8ter 9th May 2012 17:16

Would that literally be "chopping for job security"?? :E

Spanish Waltzer 26th October 2012 11:56

North Sea 225 ditching
 
Out of interest do the UK mil puma 1 or 2 have the same gearbox that has now led to the grounding of much of the civvy super puma fleet?

Fareastdriver 26th October 2012 16:31

Depends on the hours. As far as I know the fleet leader among the RAF Pumas is about 12,500 hrs. I think the gearbox is lifed at 3,200 hrs which would mean that the last gearbox change was ten years ago which was way before this dodgy shaft came into existance.

IIRC the oil pump is mounted on the back of the gearbox with the hydraulics and alternators so it does not have the same oil pump system as the 332 and 225.

Could be the last? 31st October 2012 08:12

So when do both Sqns stop flying Puma1?

Fareastdriver 31st October 2012 10:05

31st December 2012.

Ian Corrigible 31st October 2012 11:45


Originally Posted by Spanish Waltzer
Out of interest do the UK mil puma 1 or 2 have the same gearbox that has now led to the grounding of much of the civvy super puma fleet?

No, different box (/shaft). Same for the KAI Surion.

I/C


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