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Epsilon minus 21st July 2007 11:30

EE Lightning
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLMhdUYUQQg&NR=1
Anybody remember the Farnborough display?

Hugh Spencer 21st July 2007 11:36

EE Lightning
 
Many years ago I remember a display by the Lightning. It was a display I will never forget. Basically the pilot sat on the jet engines and the enormous power available was very impressive. Although witnessed a long time ago the Lightning was able to climb vertically like a rocket to any height.

Pontius Navigator 21st July 2007 11:46

What happens at 3.22, just after the missile launch doors open.

There are no missiles on the aircraft then a missile appears from the doors. I thought the missile pack had external missiles. Did it have an internal missile bay?

Also at 4.04 what is the 4 prop on the runway? It is not a Shack or Lanc and it looks like a tail dragger but not a Hastings.

Jackonicko 21st July 2007 12:08

That's no missile, PN, it's a FFAR! And that's not a door, it's a drop down battery of rockets.

York? Lincoln? Looks high wing, and the exhaust stripes over the wing look familiar.

ORAC 21st July 2007 12:13

The Lightning had a removable weapons pack. The Firestreak & Redtop packs carried 2 Mx on stub pylons. There was also an unguided rocket pack which swung open with 22 rockets on either side, and the Saudi models had a recce pack where the cameras were swung out.

Pontius Navigator 21st July 2007 12:17


Originally Posted by Jackonicko (Post 3427142)
York? Lincoln? Looks high wing, and the exhaust stripes over the wing look familiar.

Single fin tail?

A2QFI 21st July 2007 12:18

Hard to get a good look at the aircraft on the runway - looks low wing - could it be a B17? Standing by for loud mocking noises! The pictures of the Taylor helmet brought back memories of long and uncomfortable high altitude flights in a PR9!

jindabyne 21st July 2007 12:35

A2

I'd also go for a B-17

Pontius Navigator 21st July 2007 12:36

B17, fits. Which air force I wonder?

forget 21st July 2007 12:37

Lightning weapons. From

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/uk.../lightning.htm

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...pas/G-AXEE.jpg

BEagle 21st July 2007 13:14

Sure it wasn't just a Hastings?

Epsilon minus 21st July 2007 13:27

more Lightning videos. Anybody recognise the characters?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-sDd...elated&search=
As for the tails dragger on the runway it cannot be a B17 since there is no mid ships turret on the top of the fuselage. i would go for a Hastings if that flypasr was at coltishall?

forget 21st July 2007 13:37

Hastings I'd say.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/mmm.jpg

Chugalug2 21st July 2007 13:45

Name that plane!
 
Well this is a first Jackoniko, for I find myself agreeing with you! My money would be on a Lincoln. I can't see a single fin, it looks like a high wing to me, with the classic overwing exhaust stains. It sure doesn't resemble a Hastings. I used to fly them, does that count? Whatever it was the comparison between it and the Lightning gives some idea of the leap in technology that the latter displayed!

BOAC 21st July 2007 15:21

Epsilon - Tim and Jim - Instructor Tim Allan, student Jim Ludford. Both ex bona-jets.

Liobian 21st July 2007 15:22

To answer the original question - Dam- Right, I do !

I don't know how often (years) they did that stream departure for the show, but I do recall seeing it. IIRC I went with my Dad. Guessing '64 or '65 ?
The ground verily shook, along with all my internal bits. Totally Brilliant !!
Now I can show my son.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! 21st July 2007 16:44

I'd say it was the H model B17 :8

Two's in 21st July 2007 17:25

Despite my usual suspicion of the cries of "it was much harder in my day" (and now I have reached that point myself) I can't help but have huge admiration and respect for those guys who were wazzing around at Mach 2.0 with an instrument panel that Isambard Kingdom Brunel would probably recognize (but having trained on the Chippie, so do I). The next time someone complains that their MFD or HOTAS is rubbish, they might want to see what these pilots were coping with. Now that's real multi-tasking, so much for Human Factors!

And it is a B-17, you can clearly see the 3/8" pop rivets on the Stbd Wing leading edge fillet.

tacr2man 21st July 2007 17:39

Lightning display
 
I remember a display at Upper Heyford, the lightning ,took off did a fairly rapid climb, then seemed to dissapear, he returned just subsonic at 90deg from behind spectator lines the whole crowd jumped in the air as one, at the same time he went vertical out of sight, I think that was the whole display as I remember.
That same show the weather changed and I nearly got hit by the real thing whilst stood on top of my landy taking pics.
I think the USAF held it on NATO day or some such, quite a while ago now.

Pontius Navigator 21st July 2007 17:58

No, I side with Lincoln. Definitly not a Hastings with was low wing and sat very nose up. Nor is it a B17 with that parallel tail plane. I reckon I I caan see the darker lines on the outsides of the tail plane which could be the fins.

Could it be the Lincoln with a Mamba in the nose?

http://www.raf.mod.uk/history_old/lineage2.html


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